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25 nl middle set on a scary


ca all day

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my villian is 36/30 after 74 hands . he has a tendancy to bet big everytime i've taken 2 hands off him with a turn raise so far.
I've seen villian check raise once or twice as well I feel once i raise the flop the only hands that are gonna call me are a pocket pair higher than board or a straight draw. the straight definitely got there on the turn. it kinda froze me. on the river should i be calling or folding is my answer. i really see no need to raise river.
what are your thoughts about this hand?
thanks in advance


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 588291
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BTN: $8.40
SB: $33.96
BB: $43.61
UTG: $25.00
Hero (CO): $66.63

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with 3 Club 3 Diamond
UTG raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.05) 4 Spade 5 Club 3 Heart (2 players)
UTG bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4.20, UTG calls $2.70

Turn: ($10.45) 2 Club (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($10.45) 9 Diamond (2 players)
UTG bets $7.75, Hero requests TIME, Hero ?

Posted almost 2 years ago

ca all day

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should i be calling or folding on the river is my question. something in my gut told me he had straight so i folded.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Yojimgari

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Looks like villain is TAG, loose TAG, good LAG, or bad LAG, can't tell much else. What does the phrase "bet big every time I've taken 2 hands off him with a turn raise so far" mean?

You don't necessarily need to call preflop, it will depend on what the other blinds are like. As default I fold but I think most everybody else set mines, but I don't think it's as profitable as people think. Although on certain tables I will call depending on stats, reads, images, positions, stack sizes, and action ahead. When my skill level increases so will the number of hands I call with. Something like QJs is different though here, because you can float flops with that hand, and pick up draws on the turn and stuff. You can't do much with 33 postflop unless you hit a set, or there is a dry board with a Q/K/A that you want to bluff float. If people 3bet behind you then you can't call or 4bet light, and if somebody calls then your float potential on the flop is destroyed so you need a set or OESD when the flop hits to continue.

Raise bigger on the flop for value/protection to 80% pot of $5.25, maybe a little more, and the same amount with bluffs here since he may be a decent player and you want to use unexploitable bet sizing against him. You want to get a good amount of money out of 66/22/an Ace/65s/54s/TT+ so you should raise bigger.

Here's a possible range for villain to continue with on the turn, although some of these hands he may fold preflop, or 3bet the flop with, or fold on the flop:
TT+,66-44,22,A2s+,76s,65s,54s,AJo+

The 2 is an absolute atrocious card for you here. You can't get any better hand to fold with a turn bet unless he has 55/44/54s somehow. You can't get two streets out of 22, plus KK-TT/54s will fold. Check here.

Just fold on the river, he's not betting KK-TT/54s/22 here. Your equity is literally 1% here when he bets. You need 30% equity to call, and 30%+ of his range is not KK-TT/54s/22, those hands make up 1% or less of his range. Good luck, Yojimgari

Posted almost 2 years ago

Poker_Road

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I think we need to raise much bigger otf...5.75 gets it done for me.
Turn is so ugly.. we can fold the river for sure.

betting the turn for halfpot and folding to any other action would be +ev here imo.
You might think if we bet the turn no worse hands call and this may be true.So were not betting for value.
But turning our hand into a halfpot one barrell bluff on the turn will get enough folds but is not without added varience imo.

Posted almost 2 years ago

hkx

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But turning our hand into a halfpot one barrell bluff on the turn will get enough folds but is not without added varience imo.



So are we trying to fold out 44/55 by betting the turn?

Agree with the flopraise being too small. Checking back the turn seems fine as it's hard to get value from worse. You may have better luck getting a crying call from an overpair on the river and it's always nice if the board pairs and you can stack a straight. It's also close to impossible for him to have 2 pair or something here, so the value really isnt there

Posted almost 2 years ago

Poker_Road

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So are we trying to fold out 44/55 by betting the turn?
isnt there



yes, appolagies bluffing here is sooo bad. =-( ...I retract that whole statement

Posted almost 2 years ago




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