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Our coaching page has had many changes since we started. We expect a lot from DC coaches. For those of you unfamiliar with our team look here:

http://www.deucescracked.com/coaching

It may look like a long list of coaches but since we offer a wide variety of poker at DeucesCracked, we have a very tight list from game to game, level to level.

So, how does one make the DeucesCracked team?

A DC coach usually comes from one of the four following categories (no particular order):
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They are a student of another DC coach and come highly recommended.

They email us asking us to become a DC coach. (approximately 15 emails are received every month)

They are a long time member of the DeucesCracked community that we have kept our eyes on and have moved up the ranks to earn their DC stripes.

The DC founders seek out a specific coach(es) in a certain expertise to fill a gap on the DC team.
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Regardless of the case for the above, the following happens:

The prospective coach is then emailed several times from me, copied to Krantz, until all the following information is obtained:

A poker resume (think I was the first to ever ask this and some responded 'WAT a poker resume?', obv they are not a coach), which would include how long they've been playing poker, what game/limits they play now, how they got into the game, if they have received coaching, from whom, and if they have coached anyone, how long they have coached, how many students they have coached, and so on. The resume includes screen names and graphs, how many posts they have on DC, 2p2, or other communities and those forum-names as well.

I then take said resume/info to all 5 DC founders and ask everyone to look it over. Quite often we will email specific DC team members if they know the prospective coach, have read their poker community posts, play in their games, or know their reputation, etc.

Then we have the prospective coach submit a sample video. Some have never made one, but quite often some have or willingly make and submit one. It depends on what we are looking for in a team member. This sample video is reviewed by at least one of the founders, if not more.

Next I have the coach add me to their AIM/Skype and quite often talk to them over skype to get to know them, hear their voice, and how they carry themselves.

After all this, we decide if the prospective coach fits our team, our current plan for DC, and if he/she is a good fit for our members.

And that's pretty much all of it in a nutshell. As we have grown it's become harder and harder to become part of the team. If you have any suggestions or would like to add comments to our process, please do so.

It's your site, we just work here.

-Joe

Wow, glad to see you put so much care into your selection process. It's good to know that a DC coach has earned their place on merit, not just to make up the numbers.

I love the idea of Poker Resume's, very professional.
Do you think these would be something a coach would be happy to make public?

Once a coach is a DC coach, will they still be reviewed from time to time to check if they are still good enough to be a member of the team?

If so, will the same criteria be used?

Do you think these would be something a coach would be happy to make public?

Often most of their poker-resume becomes their bio on the coaching page. But as for screen names/graphs, unless the coach asks for it to be publicized, that information remains private.

Once a coach is a DC coach, will they still be reviewed from time to time to check if they are still good enough to be a member of the team?

If so, will the same criteria be used?

Like I said in the beginning, the coaching page has had MANY changes. And the changes are not random.

As for review, check this post out: http://www.deucescracked.com/forums/19-Coaching/topics/87761-Review-your-DC-Coach

What's amazing is that this doesn't seem to be the industry standard. Realistically, this should be in bold text on the coaching page.

And that's pretty much all of it in a nutshell.

-Joe

The bad news is, Chuck and I will be trademarking this saying and a $.03 bill will likely be coming

It seems that the Jason Ho earthquake has a lot of repercussions and not only towards Stoxpoker.

The positive coin of this incredible scam is that the coaching websites are more willing now to be as transparent as possible on how they hire their coaches or maybe create a real process which didn't exist before the scam revelation... (not saying it's the case of DC but pretty sure all these security measures that we can see now on coaching websites didn't all exist before).

Hope it will still be the case in 6 months/one year when this whole scam will be step by step forgotten.

As an advice, I think it's important that your process doesn't stop at the point "ok you're hired".
The DC board should follow after each year each coach to see if they are still as good as they were (the game is in a constant evolution, so should be a coach).

This, I think, should also applies to each coaches' fees. If a coach put his fees when he came to DC to his NL600 winrate (assuming he has also coaching experience) but one year later only play NL200 I think that if the fees along with the DC resume on his webpage remain the same, it will be dishonest.

This game constantly evolves and one good player at x time is not necessarily as good as he were 1.5 year later. You should also look into it.
The following of your coaches is as much as important than the process of hiring them.

NB: sorry, my english is not really good.

The DC board should follow after each year each coach to see if they are still as good as they were (the game is in a constant evolution, so should be a coach).

This, I think, should also applies to each coaches' fees. If a coach put his fees when he came to DC to his NL600 winrate (assuming he has also coaching experience) but one year later only play NL200 I think that if the fees along with the DC resume on his webpage remain the same, it will be dishonest.

This game constantly evolves and one good player at x time is not necessarily as good as he were 1.5 year later. You should also look into it.
The following of your coaches is as much as important than the process of hiring them.

Like I said in the OP and above reply, the coaching page has been changing all the time. We have taken down over 20 coaching profiles for various reasons since we started, in turn, have added ~15 new coaches to replace those moved on.

As for student reviews, we have that in play as well: http://www.deucescracked.com/forums/19-Coaching/topics/87761-Review-your-DC-Coach

This, I think, should also applies to each coaches' fees. If a coach put his fees when he came to DC to his NL600 winrate (assuming he has also coaching experience) but one year later only play NL200 I think that if the fees along with the DC resume on his webpage remain the same, it will be dishonest.

while i agree with the sentiment behind this there are a lot of reasons why someone may play lower that would not impact their coaching abilities such as life expenses, tilt problems/degenerate gambling, shot taking, etc. it's going to be kind of hard to measure whether someone is not winning at poker because their skills have deteriorated or whether they have non-strategy leaks.

student reviews are probably the best way, although IME coaching there are some students who are easy to please and you could be pretty bad at poker and they would just be happy they are getting a confidence boost/rejuvenated look at poker

This, I think, should also applies to each coaches' fees. If a coach put his fees when he came to DC to his NL600 winrate (assuming he has also coaching experience) but one year later only play NL200 I think that if the fees along with the DC resume on his webpage remain the same, it will be dishonest.

Obviously, there is a disclosure element here, and info provided needs to be accurate.

OTOH, there are famous examples in other sports of coaches that "chose to coach".

Possibly the most extreme was in chess. To become a Grandmaster, you needed a rating above 2450, and 3 performances exceeding either 2550 or 2600. Mark Dvoretsky semi-retired from play in the 1970s after winning one of the Wijk-aan-Zee tournaments, coming 5th in the Soviet Championship, and winning the Moscow championship. Look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Dvoretsky, and possibly think of Tommy Angelo?

But that isn't that unusual. Jose Mourinho and Arsene Wenger in soccer specifically had an extremely non-standard career path. Suppose someone like Grindcore or Tubasteve decides that he has a two or three new 1-2nl students, so he's going to play those games for a while. I don't think it affects the value of their coaching much that they've come down one or more stakes levels.

And apart from anything else, the coaching fee is between the coach and the student.

I like your "DC recruitment" process

how much does a coaching session cost...around? for like NL

how much does a coaching session cost...around? for like NL

http://www.deucescracked.com/coaching

I hope one day this will be helpful a lot

Thanks for directing me to this, Joe.

DC is truly the nuts!