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chuBuBBawuB

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Was totally readless on villain.
I like the whole concept of just defending your whole range in the BB when heads up, but I can't help feeling that I potentially miss a lot of value on boards like this and only get the value out of really strong preflop hands such as AK either on very dry boards or when I hit. Maybe I am making big mistakes in spots like this (by not ck/rsng this flop or by not value-betting this river?). I do v-bet A-hi fairly often but was really unsure if I was a favourite when called on this kind of unpaired board that might dissuade him from showing down worse A hi. I also thought that he could possibly have smaller pairs that didn't want to v-bet turn against a QJ board. Any lines suggested for these kinds of spots?

Poker Stars $1/$2 Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1860366
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with K Diamond A Spade
2 folds, BTN raises, 1 fold, Hero calls

Flop: (4.5 SB) Q Club 3 Spade J Heart (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets, Hero calls

Turn: (3.25 BB) 8 Spade (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (3.25 BB) 6 Heart (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Final Pot: 3.25 BB
Hero shows K Diamond A Spade (high card Ace)
BTN mucks K Club 4 Club
Hero wins 3.12 BB
(Rake: $0.26)

Posted 9 months ago

SIide

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I would value bet the river. If we check, he'll play very well against our hand, value betting better hands and checking back worse hands. I also don't think he's going to bluff much if we check the river. If we knew he was more passive and would check back 22-77 on the river, then there might be an argument for checking.

I don't like C/R'ing the flop. He's just going to end up folding a lot of his worse hands that we want him to barrel with on the turn & river. We also put ourselves in a position to put in extra bets badly against his made hands and maybe even fold the best hand if he plays back at us.

Posted 9 months ago

BigBadBabar

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I would value bet the river. If we check, he'll play very well against our hand, value betting better hands and checking back worse hands. I also don't think he's going to bluff much if we check the river. If we knew he was more passive and would check back 22-77 on the river, then there might be an argument for checking.

I don't like C/R'ing the flop. He's just going to end up folding a lot of his worse hands that we want him to barrel with on the turn & river. We also put ourselves in a position to put in extra bets badly against his made hands and maybe even fold the best hand if he plays back at us.



+1, nice post

Posted 9 months ago

sweetjazz3

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If we check, he'll play very well against our hand, value betting better hands and checking back worse hands.



If that is the case, check/fold could be more profitable than betting the river.

Posted 9 months ago

SIide

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If that is the case, check/fold could be more profitable than betting the river.



Ya, it could be the best option, but we haven't developed enough of a read on villain that I'm comfortable Ch/Folding what could be the best hand. When I said villain will be "value betting better hands and checking back worse hands." I was speaking a bit generally. I wasn't saying he value bet exactly 22 or better and check back exactly AT or worse.

Also, I think just value betting the river is likely a +EV bet against his calling range.

Posted 9 months ago

mikefut

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FWIW, I haven't played a hand of online poker since Black Friday, but I think I was pretty decent then. That said, I like your line.

Posted 9 months ago




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