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Hello all.

Havent posted for a while and currently reviwing some hands.
decided to take a change and post a hand I think I played well with street by street explanations

BB is 35/15/12/1.3 (vpip/pfr/3b/Agg)

6players
Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BTN with 9 Q
3 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls
Standard open from BTN

Flop: (4.5 SB) 2 K T (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls
this is a little more aggro than I usually am, once the BB donk I pin him on kings, maybe tens but I raised to try and build a big pot on dry board

Turn: (4.25 BB) 4 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls
this is a good card for my hand and I dont think it changes matter for the villain, when he donks I raise as i have just improve to a very strong draw

River: (8.25 BB) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls
Self explanatary, I suspected that the villain would have fold if bet too after he had checked. He didnt though and showed down his TP

Was I too aggro on the flop and the Turn. I know not alot of bets went in but this hand stuck in my head

How would you play a King/QQ, JJ, a ten, AA, or a set?

Flop: (4.5 SB) 2 K T (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls
this is a little more aggro than I usually am, once the BB donk I pin him on kings, maybe tens but I raised to try and build a big pot on dry board

Hi mathfreak,

if you pin him on that range our equity is way below 50% - why do you want to build a big pot?

greetings
pancho

How would you play a King/QQ, JJ, a ten, AA, or a set
I would have played this the same and tried to jam every flop and turn given the chance. When the rivers comes I still feel confident betting if checked too. Time to be honest. If I was check raised on the river I would think i should fold but I would call. I dont think too many villains take x/r bluff line on the river as most villian play honestly on the river at this stake(apart from some horrible calls on their part).
How would others have played the river if x/r given the hands that Dosxx outlined?7

Pancho - I will play around with stove later and give you an informed opinion. I tried to build a big pot when I was playing as i thought "he has donked into me after calling a BTN open raise on a KT2 rainbow board. He most likely has a TP/2nd pair hand at this point. I raised for information and to build a big pot if hte turn gave me a redraw" also I had quite an aggressive/winning image at this table and many opps seemed to play passively against me,

Sorry for the long reply, I think to try and think how I would play mutliple board texture depeding how the board works out. but If the flop was 4 K T and the turn the 2 would we try to jam the turn and river.

mathfreak,

Unfortunately, none of the reasons you've listed for raising are valid right now. There are two main reasons to raise:

1) Because we have the best hand, and we want more money in the pot.
2) Because we don't have the best hand, and we want someone to fold.

In this case, we've got enough equity to call against a range of TP/2P hands, but not by a lot. The pot is small, and we don't want it to be bigger, because bigger pots make it harder for us to fold marginal and dominated draws. This isn't the sort of hand where you have an equity edge on the flop, so raising is poor, at least for the stated reasons.

On the turn, raising is even worse. He's announced he has a hand that isn't folding and you have queen high. Don't try to make him fold, and don't pretend that your equity has improved much. You definitely don't have > 50% of it.

On the river, the hand plays itself.

Rob

Wow thanks for the reply. I am going to review some session in the next few hours with stoce and see how often I make this bad play. Thanks I think I have just found a BIG leak!