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SIide

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Villain is a regular, probably more towards the laggy side preflop. I think he's capable of thinking on level 2/3 and should view me as a competent regular.

Up to the river seems standard. I feel like this is a reasonable hand to C/R bluff the river with targeting 8x/99 type hands. KT is near the bottom of my range, but still benefits from river being checked through. I also think its a pretty good spot to C/R value hands as I feel a lot of his range can't really call a river bet and if it can, will probably value bet the river anyways. Once he 3-bets, I believe his range is KJ/K9cc, 88 (all of which I think might just bet the turn) or BS, so I consider a 4-bet bluff...

Poker Stars $1/$2 Limit Hold'em - 3 players - View hand 1808357
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Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with K Diamond T Club
BTN raises, 1 fold, Hero calls

Flop: (4.5 SB) 3 Diamond A Club 7 Club (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets, Hero calls

Turn: (3.25 BB) Q Spade (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (3.25 BB) 8 Club (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets, Hero raises, BTN 3-bets

Posted 11 months ago

pokergarden

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I think he could have a hand with showdown value that also has a flush draw on the turn.

I could potentially see him 3b any flush for value if he thinks you would be c/r a FD on the flop, and/or bet out when you hit a flush on the river.

I mean if you shoved here and I was villain I might think its hard for you to have a flush, so I might call it off with any flush, or even 88.

Would also depend on your image. If you're a nit I'm never 3betting this river without the nuts.

Posted 11 months ago

SIide

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I think he could have a hand with showdown value that also has a flush draw on the turn.

I could potentially see him 3b any flush for value if he thinks you would be c/r a FD on the flop, and/or bet out when you hit a flush on the river.

I mean if you shoved here and I was villain I might think its hard for you to have a flush, so I might call it off with any flush, or even 88.

Would also depend on your image. If you're a nit I'm never 3betting this river without the nuts.



This is LHE, but I think some of your comments still apply. Maybe he Checks Back Q3/K3cc, but not Qxcc.

Also, I agree my line may look like BS, especially if he has the Kc, as I'm only really repping K hi flushes with a 4 bet.

Posted 11 months ago

BigBadBabar

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i don't know who your exact opponent was obviously but i think it's giving way too much credit to say that a regular at these stakes is capable of river bluff3betting. if he's induceable i would consider a river c/c although i think probably c/f is a better play

depending on your default lines you probably don't have a lot of value hands on the river here is the problem. you likely flop cr all flush draws, all ax, and all 2pair+ hands, right? so on the river you're basically repping 87 or 88, maybe qq

Posted 11 months ago

SIide

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depending on your default lines you probably don't have a lot of value hands on the river here is the problem. you likely flop cr all flush draws, all ax, and all 2pair+ hands, right? so on the river you're basically repping 87 or 88, maybe qq



I wouldn't say its that narrow, but still pretty narrow. Something like Q7, Q3s, 3xcc, 87, QQ, 88, K9-KQcc, occasionally Ax are candidates that I might have in my range and C/R the river with.

I guess I felt like I shouldn't have many bluffs when I take this line as I'd just bet a hand like 65 on the river and fold a hand like Jhi on the flop. However, none of this matters if villain isn't aware of this as well and just has a thought process of "could be a bluff I call".

Assume we decide it is profitable to have a C/R bluffing range on this river, I feel like this hand, maybe Kc5x/Kc6x/K9 are probably the best candidates?

Posted 11 months ago

mathfreak

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I would just call the river 3!.
I dont think that the villain will call the four bet bluff with nothing, I think you will be beatean here most of the time given the villains 3! after being x/r. Adding the the Turn was checked through I am more inclined to think he has two clubs in his hand

Posted 11 months ago

BigBadBabar

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I would just call the river 3!.
I dont think that the villain will call the four bet bluff with nothing, I think you will be beatean here most of the time given the villains 3! after being x/r. Adding the the Turn was checked through I am more inclined to think he has two clubs in his hand



we have king high i don't think calling the river 3bet is good Smile

Posted 11 months ago

pokergarden

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This is LHE, but I think some of your comments still apply. .


Ah that makes sense as to why theres no be size in the HH Smile

Posted 11 months ago

iplaylimit

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You'll need your river c/r to work close to 33% of the time, what do you think villain will be bluffing/folding to your raise?

Calling the 3bet is probably better than 4betting also.

Posted 11 months ago




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