18orbetter
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Hey DosXX,
It's cool you got to know Combonator, but for selecting ranges I'd suggest you to use the hand selector tool below the grid. (E.g. in your valuerange you left out the set of fours from your range the first time. Or 42s in your calling range.) Not just more accurate, but faster as well.
Also I disagree with saying "we give xy odds to our opponent on a check/raise, therefore we should check/raise xy of our range" - it has multiple errors in it. First off, not xy% of our range should be bluffs, but xy% of our check/raising range should be a bluff. But that statement is still not true, since we have to look at it as a multistreet situation, therefore check/raising a lot more than xy%, the right amount is probably closer to the 2-3 times xy. (With most of our range he has to be indifferent between calling down and folding mostly, since we're gonna betdown most of our hands.)
You can eliminate the hands by going to the tools bar, and set range to selection, Group 3 in the dropdown menu in this case, and click the button.
Also you say you never xr the turn, which is not true, 33, 43 will be check/raised, and some FDs too IMO. I think from the turn the whole calculation is pretty messed up.
Also, on the river you can get the bottom of your range in the hand selector tool also.
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SIide
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Agree with your summary, I found it useful to see you go through this process of analyzing a hand from a GTO perspective. You made some mistakes I saw, but I think the process of analyzing a hand in this way is the educational part.
Couple mistakes:
- You made the classic pot odds mistake on the turn (with your calculator) by forgetting to include the bet your adding to the pot size. The correct pot odds are 6/(25+6) = 19% not just 6/25 = 24%
- River analysis: A3 is a pair and not folding, K6 your folding before Ace hi.
- Leaving in all your flop C/R's in your turn Ch/C analysis (which you caught at the end)
Also, all the combonator results were off screen. Would be nice if the video was centered around combonator and not the HH review screen.
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DosXX
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Thank you for the comments. I did almost none of this before the fact, so it definitely shows in some of the small mistakes. I'm trying to learn this whole process myself so I knew I was stumbling along the way, but I was hoping it help illuminate the process all the better.
Would be interested to hear more about shaping our range on the turn, as I really haven't ever gone through combonator with regards to flop/turn ranges, just approximated in my head and mostly used it for river decisions.
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18orbetter
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Busting you
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Wouldn't it be correct to cr the flop with some of your very strong Ax like AK AQ , flop is dry and our opponent has wide range so aren't we giving up value by playing these as a bluff catcher?
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jhyle349
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