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AKs, Villain capped ttone flop

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mathfreak

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Hello

Samee villain from previous hand, so stats sample is small 73/3/0/1.9 over 30 hands

Unsure weather I should have folded the river, unsure about what to pin the villian on given his PF limp / call then aggression on the flop. What do others thinks about this one?

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em - 4 players
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Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is SB with K Club A Club
CO calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, CO calls

Flop: (5 SB) 5 Heart 4 Heart T Spade (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, CO caps!, Hero calls

Turn: (6.5 BB) 3 Club (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls

River: (8.5 BB) A Spade (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, [color=red]Hero?

Posted 12 months ago

liquid_quik

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i probably dont 3bet the flop here...? what was your reasoning for it. it seems too early in the sample to be doing it for spazzy meta reasons..

a line i probably like is b/c flop.... maybe call the turn b/c we now have 10 outs to probably the best hand, and then c/r the river.


as played folding the river is the worst. you should be thinking about raising and trying to see what range of hands he probably has.

Posted 12 months ago

shuttle

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I wouldn't 3bet flop here as I don't think it's a better line that bet/call and call down unimproved and raising on improvement. Hope some of the better LHE players can comment on this.

3betting flop here then folding this river indicates some seriously flawed logic at some point in the hand.

Posted 12 months ago

iplaylimit

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Don't get the flop at all either.

Also, if you're going to fold this river, why call the turn?

Posted 12 months ago

vesamattila

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I don't like the flop play either. Reads based on small sample still point to passive player and he's capping you on the flop - reeks like set, 2p or the flushdraw. passive player's like this would not bet the river with failed draw that often, which is probably only thing you beat here - even the ace doesn't help you much most of the time.
I might actually do a tight fold on the flop already, but could also call reraise, see the turn and with still just 2 overs I'd fold.

Posted 12 months ago

SIide

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I B/C flop, Ch/C Turn, and either B/C or C/R/Decide on the river. 3-betting the flop is pretty bad as others have mentioned.

Posted 12 months ago

mathfreak

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Agreed my flop 3! was spazzy. I cannot remember hat I was thinking at this point in the hand but I think I was trying to balance my play of AK here. I think I tend to play this hand too transparantly.

@iplaylimit - Good bit of advice, I will keep in mind hen playing hands in future.

Posted 11 months ago

SIide

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Agreed my flop 3! was spazzy. I cannot remember hat I was thinking at this point in the hand but I think I was trying to balance my play of AK here. I think I tend to play this hand too transparantly.



I think its much better to think about what your doing with your range, rather than just one specific hand. Its impossible to balance the play of one specific hand in your range without considering how your playing the rest of your hands. In this hand, if you want some hands in your range to B/3-b Semi-bluff the flop with, you should do it with your flushdraws like QJhh or KJhh.

If your worried about only have Ace Hi when you Bet/C this flop. Then you can Bet/C some Strong Overpairs and C/R the turn with them.

Posted 11 months ago

arjunt1

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As said no reason to 3-bet that flop, flush draw and hands like 67 are not folding to a raise. I think hands like JTs, T9s, 66-99 etc and flush draws are all in his range here, and his raise could be to isolate vs hands like Ax when he has PP, deception with JT/T9 and to narrow your range when you flat, and best case AQ, maybe AJs. You are putting money in behind most of the time on that particular flop, or at least have reverse implied odds when you do catch your AK and its a heart. AKh are not clean outs so you are really just drawing to a 4 outer against a lot of hands. The question is, if you aren't calling or even raising the non heart A on the river what are you doing in the hand with AK?

Posted 11 months ago




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