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SIide

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Villain is a regular, running at 33/25 over a couple hundred hands, AFr 1.6

I'm not sure if he caps big hands preflop, but I would assume most likely. I'm also not sure if he likes to delay any made hands on this flop texture.

A Turn Bet doesn't seem to accomplish much, so I check.

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Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is SB with Q Heart K Spade
UTG raises, 3 folds, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG calls

Flop: (7 SB) 5 Club T Heart A Diamond (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls

Turn: (4.5 BB) 5 Spade (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero ...

Posted about 1 year ago

grandmofftarkin

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Do you always 3b out of the bb? Especially vs a solid taggy utg open?

Posted about 1 year ago

Amaryllis

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He's the SB.

I may bet the turn to target sixes through eights although it seems to be more of a desperation bet.

As played, I think we're done with the hand. I don't think he'd bluff often with KJ, QJ.

Posted about 1 year ago

SIide

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I may bet the turn to target sixes through eights although it seems to be more of a desperation bet.



I felt like he probably folds the flop with those hands and if he did call, it was probably not with the intention of folding to a turn bet on a brick like this one.

Posted about 1 year ago

DosXX

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I think this is a decent hand to c/r the turn with. I think you should be checking much of your range here on the turn planning to c/r big aces, call down with big PP, and fold some of your suited connector type hands.

Posted about 1 year ago

mathfreak

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I dont like 3betting a UTG raiser with KQo in the sb.
but as played I would cbet the flop also and I think I give up on the turn, The turn card seems a blank and against the villains stats and open raise I think our only hope would be hitting a jack.

Posted about 1 year ago

grandmofftarkin

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I think this is a decent hand to c/r the turn with. I think you should be checking much of your range here on the turn planning to c/r big aces, call down with big PP, and fold some of your suited connector type hands.


If the turn were different (i.e. bringing in any backdoor flushdraws) would you still xr semibluff here? I only ask in that villain might think "Lol, he has a backdoor fd, so I'll call down"

Posted about 1 year ago

DosXX

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If the turn were different (i.e. bringing in any backdoor flushdraws) would you still xr semibluff here? I only ask in that villain might think "Lol, he has a backdoor fd, so I'll call down"



Yeah I almost said in my original post that the badugi turn helps our fold equity since he won't be able to put us on a backdoor flush draw.

Posted about 1 year ago

DosXX

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I just realized I misread the action and thought we 3bet out of the BB against a button opener, so pretty much totally wrong Smile

Now, I think we should just c/fold on this board given the much narrower ranges than I originally thought.

Posted about 1 year ago

grandmofftarkin

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I just realized I misread the action and thought we 3bet out of the BB against a button opener, so pretty much totally wrong Smile

Now, I think we should just c/fold on this board given the much narrower ranges than I originally thought.


Just out of curiosity...why does being the sb make that big of a difference?

Posted 12 months ago

DosXX

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I thought it was button opener and BB 3bet. UTG opening is a lot narrower range in this spot.

Posted 12 months ago

pasita

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I think it all boils down to whether villain is betting pairs Tx- to a check on turn. If he is, folding would be a mistake. If he only bets Ax+ and maybe some random bluffs, calling would be a mistake. So until you have a clue about that, calling turn is likely +EV, if only for seeing him checkback 99 or QQ on the river.

If villain is good it probably doesn't matter what you do (short of openfolding river) as I think this might be a pretty good spot for him to barrel KJ, QJ on top of all of his value hands.

Posted 12 months ago

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