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nonsimplesimon

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Joined 02/2010

Hello - I am getting back into LHE after taking time off to play NLHE - specifically HU (what a change eh?) - so now BF has forced me back into the LHE realm which is actually a good thing. I am playing live at my local card room in MN and I need some help with re familiarizing myself with some basic concepts.

To start I'd like to ask you about small pocket pairs. I have some examples from my last session (I take notes while I play) and would appreciate some advice and/or feedback. Assume the games are SSHE of the live passive type. The tables are nine handed.

1) <77: facing an early position raise from a) TAG -or- b) LAG and it's folded to me in LP. I should fold, call or raise? If I call, the blinds are likely to call, if I fold the blinds are likely to fold or be HU w the BB - do I want to play this 3w?

2) 66 UTG - I open raise. Is this the bottom of our UTG or EP - opening range? My thoughts on this are that if the game is playing tightly w maybe three max to the flop then I'm ok with the utg open. If the game is loose passive with 3> to the flop then I might be inclined to open limp. Thoughts?

3) 22 in the LJ. There are 3 limpers and I over limp. the BB calls. It's five to the flop w 5sb: 783r. BB leads, a call, folded to me where I: call or fold? If I'm drawing to two outs where I would effectively need 10.88:1 on a call. I'm getting 8:1 on immediate odds but if I hit my deuce ott I think I can get value from a 7 or an 8. Does this warrant a call?

4) 3Diamond3Spade in the BB. UTG1 tag OR and there are 4 callers including me. It's five to the flop w 10.5sb: JDiamond7Club7Diamond; I check, tab cbets, there's call, a fold, and I call getting 13:1 on my two outs plus the bdfd (rev impl odds anyone?). Four to the turn with 6.75bb is a JHeart Is this an easy C/F?

Lets say it's HU between me and the tag. I'd kinda want to donk here! If the tag is a thinking player and has AK,AQ,KQ even an underpair would this be such a bad play? I sometimes think that donk bets are stronger than c/r's bc they don't tie the players into the pot. Anyway - I thought I would throw in that hypothetical food for thought.

Thank you all for the valuable feedback.

Posted almost 2 years ago

liquid_quik

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Joined 09/2008

1) i would almost never be 3bettign a hand 77 or worse in any situation (maybe bvb or btn vs sb), because the hands have much less value than in NL. I probably call 77 and fold 66, raising would be a mistake. we want to play these hands multiway without the initiative, and i'm not keen to take the initiative away from an EP raiser.

2) fold 66 utg. probably fold 77 utg too depending on the game. and if its 9 ways or a little shorter. people loooove to call, and being oop in a 3-5way pot sucks.

3) fold flop. you need 11-1 if you are seeing both the turn and river, but given that we only get to see the turn for 1 bet, we need 22-1, which we obviously arn't getting. why do you believe that the 7 or 8 gives you value? or do you mean a bluff card?

4) just fold the flop.

last point - people don't fold in lhe, pots are big, bets are small, esp in low limit games, look for better spots to value bet, rather than more spots to bluff

Posted almost 2 years ago




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