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May I have another please?


motienko

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Villian: 27/20/1.6 Seems solid, 3bets preflop lightly, Doesn't seem overly bluffy. I am not sure how he plays his flopped top pair hands. Not real sure about his BVB dynamics.

Poker Stars $5/$10 Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 170692
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Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is SB with A Club K Heart
4 folds, Hero raises, BB calls

Flop: (4 SB) 6 Spade Q Club 8 Club (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls

Turn: (3 BB) 5 Diamond (2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls

River: (7 BB) J Club (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero folds

Final Pot: 7 BB

Posted over 2 years ago

jossix111

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pretty much bet/folding the turn.
You`re getting 6 to 1, but need ~6.6 to 1 with your 6 outer so turn call is slightly -EV and add up the times when your river out is no good.

Posted over 2 years ago

motienko

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pretty much bet/folding the turn.
You`re getting 6 to 1, but need ~6.6 to 1 with your 6 outer so turn call is slightly -EV and add up the times when your river out is no good.



Don't forget to factor in the possibility that you are ahead.

Posted over 2 years ago

jossix111

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How often would that be?
Close to a coinflip actually... when BB protect 50%. But thats just assumption.
Board: 6s Qc 8d
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.025% 47.88% 01.15% 346058 8303.50 { AcKh }
Hand 1: 50.975% 49.83% 01.15% 360158 8303.50 { 33+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J4s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, A2o+, K5o+, Q7o+, J7o+, T7o+, 98o }
Given that villain raises the turn, he`s range gets tighter and our equity dries up.

EDIT:
Holy moly. If villain protects his big blind with 20% (of which 10% he would probably 3!-bet) or more, it`s a coin-flip... but he`s turn raise does suggest quite big amount of strength though.

Posted over 2 years ago

BusinessGypsy

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iplaylimit

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I check turn here very very often.



+1

Posted over 2 years ago

VUcats

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I check turn here very very often.



I do it somewhat often too, but I don't mind betting to induce against aggro players. Against this guy who seems like a normal TAG, I can see c/c, c/c or c/c, c/f, but the fact that he's 3betting PF light makes me think he might have some tricks in his bad, making betting the turn not bad.

I'd say 65% of the time I'd play the hand by checking turn, and 35% like you played it.

Posted over 2 years ago

rags2riches

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I do it somewhat often too, but I don't mind betting to induce against aggro players. Against this guy who seems like a normal TAG, I can see c/c, c/c or c/c, c/f, but the fact that he's 3betting PF light makes me think he might have some tricks in his bad, making betting the turn not bad.

I'd say 65% of the time I'd play the hand by checking turn, and 35% like you played it.




Any articles or posts you guys could point me to about when the best time it is to check the turn? This is a part of my game I feel I need to work on before moving up. Sorry for the thread jacking but this seems like a important topic.

Posted over 2 years ago

BusinessGypsy

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Aside from Ahigh, what's our checking range here?

Posted over 2 years ago




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