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Villain appears to be a reasonable LAG/TAG, no outstanding reads including what his Ch/Call Flop, Donk Turn line means.

I think up to the river is standard, but the river check really confused me. Seemed like he either whiffed a draw or was going for a screw play, so I didn't really see a lot of value in a river bet.

Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 825265
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Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is MP with 9 J
UTG calls, Hero calls, 1 fold, BTN calls, SB calls, BB checks

Flop: (5 SB) J 3 8 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, BTN folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds

Turn: (3.5 BB) K (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls

River: (5.5 BB) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: 5.5 BB

turns fine, and i think we are best served to check the river. i mean if we bet there it is super thin. i mean it is not me doubting we have the best hand, i just dont know if we can get called like ever. maybe the A high busted flush draw

I would most likely raise this pf if I were going to play it but judging from all the LP play the overlimp looks good. I would still bet the river expecting to see worse often enough.

...I would still bet the river expecting to see worse often enough.

Could you elaborate what type of range you expect to get called by? I had a really tough time putting villain on a range of worse hands that will call.

I would check behind on the river because the only worse hand I see BB calling with is A X.

Could you elaborate what type of range you expect to get called by? I had a really tough time putting villain on a range of worse hands that will call.

Heh... I honestly looked over the reasonable LAG/TAG part, and I dunno now.

Well, what hands would you play this way? If you are a reasonable LAG/TAG and the turn improved you wouldn't you c/r the turn and not donk? If i were him I would expect you to bet the turn again since you bet into 4 people on the flop. I dunno I'm a LAG/TAG but probably not reasonable

The line doesn't make sense to me and I can understand why you would err on the side of caution but I would still bet.

I agree with LC that this is a bet. I also agree with everyone who said he isn't calling often, especially given the read, but I just don't see any way we don't have the best hand here. Also, his turn line is just not consistent with being a solid lagtag. I think he turned a combo draw a lot and tried to steal, but ace and queen high might call. (Plus you can balance all the times you're betting your own missed draw here. )

raise PF, bet the river. He'll never have a K given the turn action, and he shouldn't ever have Jx beat. So who knows what he has, but since he never has you beat you might as well bet and see if he pays you off. He can also easily have a hand like 66/87 he decided to play this way and that's never folding the river.

I would raise pre-flop, gaining some initiative and fold equity.

I am going to check back on the river, because I want to see what he has. In general (without the read) I would expect either a king or a flush draw (likely) or a straight draw. If its a draw, for the most part he isn't calling the river. If its a king, you want to check back anyway. Just check back the river and take that important note imo. If you bet and he folds you will never know for sure what he had.