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1/2 - KQ - facing action on turn -line check


supml

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Hi all,

just wondering waht you think about my line here.
Villian is kind of unkown, 22/11 over 20 hands.

Poker Stars $1/$2 Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 824899
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is CO with K Club Q Heart
UTG raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, UTG calls

Flop: (7.5 SB) J Spade 8 Club 6 Heart (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls

Turn: (4.75 BB) Q Spade (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls

River: (10.75 BB) T Heart (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls

Final Pot: 12.75 BB


Thanks in advance.
Scots75

Posted over 1 year ago

considerator

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Seems standard to me. I can't imagine flatting the turn being good apart from a special read (maybe that his donk range is super strong, or that he always 3 barrels his bluffs or something), and again it would take a special read for me to get away from my hand after the turn 3bet. Well played.

Posted over 1 year ago

LCjohnsnow

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Vs a so far nitty unknown in early position, I don't think folding pf would be bad. I would 3 bet from the button but probably not CO as a default. I'm sure people will say I'm a nit, but it's fine, just do your own work on different 3 betting ranges based on position. You'll benefit from that far more than from just listening to what someone says (like me) or following a hand chart and not knowing why.


As played I think it's fine, though river is a crying call hoping he played ATs or AJ this way or some other hand I can't think of that we beat. The ten blows...

Posted over 1 year ago

SIide

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I fold this preflop (even on the button). Granted its only 20 hands on villain, but even if he turns out to be a 24/18 type 3-betting KQo here is really marginal.

Post flop, I play the same and take a note. I expect his flop donk to largely Jx and some TT, 99, A8 type hands a large portion of the time so I like the Turn raise. Don't think you can get away from the after getting 3-bet given how little you actually know about the opponent.

Posted over 1 year ago

giancarlo055

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I fold this preflop (even on the button). Granted its only 20 hands on villain, but even if he turns out to be a 24/18 type 3-betting KQo here is really marginal.



+1

as played, I think post flop play is fine

Posted over 1 year ago

LCjohnsnow

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oops. I misread the action and missed the flop donk. I play it the same but stand by what I said about pf.

Posted over 1 year ago

nchabazam

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Pf seems quite spewy. I'd fold and not think twice about it. As played it's tough to imagine a hand you beat on the river, TT/99/AK that spewed got there, you beat nothing else.

Posted over 1 year ago

supml

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Wow, I am actually really surprised that KQ is not in the range for a 3bet here.

What about KQs?

Posted over 1 year ago

ThierryHenry

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Wow, I am actually really surprised that KQ is not in the range for a 3bet here.

What about KQs?



KQs is pretty close. I would give him an opening range of 12-15% given his position. Despite being suited you are still an equity dog, although you probably can make some of that up since you are in position.

Posted over 1 year ago

LCjohnsnow

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Wow, I am actually really surprised that KQ is not in the range for a 3bet here.

What about KQs?




I would 3 bet

Posted over 1 year ago




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