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I think the PFR as a steal is fine, but the preflop cap is really really bad (it bloats the pot and doesn\'t increase fold equity as much as people think \"it should\" -- if you\'re doing this with subpar hands occasionally make sure they have better implied odds value than Q7s, IMO, like 87s, etc). Flop/turn I really don\'t get as he\'s telling you he has AJ at the worst and while you won\'t get 3bet often you\'re just spewing your way into a spot where you have to make a hopeless bluff that is, well, hopeless.

Rob

Why the cap preflop? Q7s is near standard of a steal and is a fav over two random hands.

I\'ve been playing a lot of HU and I play a lot of weak tight guys who don\'t really know what to do with me because I run them over relentlessly (this is at 5/10 and 8/16 level, not saying I have the skill to run over a high stakes HU opponent). I have a pretty good feel for when the following moment is about to occur: I call it the \"weak tight snaps\" moment where he just decides \"I\'M GOING TO WIN THIS POT\". They tend to pick awful spots and awful boards for it because they have no concept of the subtlety of robbing someone blind and just see me raising a lot pre and post flop and take it to the extreme. This hand reminds me of a \"weak tight snap\" moment.

-DeathDonkey

Yeah you might have bluffed him (I think probably not and your Q was good) but you certainly didn\'t bluff him off AQ.

-DeathDonkey

My friend was proud of this hand, whats your opinion?

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7s, Qs
UTG folds, CO folds, Hero raises, SB raises, BB folds, Hero raises, SB calls.

Flop: (9.00 SB) A,h Qc, 9d (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) Kd (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises....

limit: .50/1 online. Villain is an average opponent in this game, hero felt he was overdefending the blinds (I didnt witness the session so I dont know if that opinion is correct).

comments on all streets please. He is aware (now?)that Q7s is mighty thin for a button open raise.

Entity wrote:

I think the PFR as a steal is fine

I think its a tad light in the .50/1 game, but I\'m ok with the action opener. I then hate the rest But knowing the person who played this hand, this thread is going to help him a lot to hear from other opinions as well. Thanks for chiming in Rob!<br><br>Post edited by: *TT*, at: 2007/07/15 18:06

CJ - the villain in this hand wouldn\'t fold the turn if he held a decent A (and possibly never fold if he held any A at all), the K on the turn didn\'t make the bluff any more convincing except to add KK in your range.

read DD\'s post, i think thats the gold here, I think he nailed exactly how you are playing.

Open, fine, cap bad.
Flop. OK.
Turn, bad.

People don\'t fold. Just muck the turn.

I\'m CJ, and I\'m a LAG. It\'s been only a few weeks since I\'ve been a LAG, and I admit I have lost control of my trigger finger.

I was stealing. The opponent, who is now my best friend, was very weak tight. I\'ve played with him a lot. I reraised to keep the initiative.

As I told TT, when the flop came, I called the flop as if I was saying, OK, You\'ve got AQ. When the King came on the turn, I raised as if I were saying My AK beats your AQ. He folded.

Here\'s the thing, as I told TT. Matt Lessinger wrote that in order to \"sell\" a bluff, you have to have a convincing story. I reraised PF, and when the king came, I was able to represent AK. This doesn\'t happen very often, but it was something I was aware of and took a shot at it.

I\'m trying very hard to overcome my tight/weak tendencies. I\'m not naturally aggressive. If I don\'t push myself, I\'ll never be really any good at all. I\'m fully aware that this will not work very often at all. However, if I don\'t learn to take these shots, I\'ll forever be stuck in low limit Hell, grinding away for little money. I really am trying very hard to improve. Much of that has to be my mental toughness.

I understand that this isn\'t a good play. But in this instance, I believe it wasn\'t good, but a great play. I knew where I was all the way, and what I was trying to do, against a very specific opponent who wasn\'t a calling station but someone who could lay down a hand. Two months ago, he would have been me, and I\'d have folded up like a cheap suitcase. That was before I learned that there is power in aggression/position/table image.

The one thing that perhaps will always give me the most trouble is going to be playing strongly. If I go too far, I\'ll have no trouble reigning it in. In time, I hope to know better when I can make a move such as this and when I can\'t. At this point in my learning curve, I needed very much to push the edge of the envelope. I felt really good about it. I promise I won\'t make a habit of it.

Thanks for the comments.