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Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by PygmyHero (Micro/Small Stakes)

lmao on the above screenshot before I even finish dl'ing the vid!

perfect freezeframe screenshot

It'll come naturally, PH, just like saying zed instead of z . Love ya, Adri!

x, y, and zed... how else would u say it?

Or perhaps AR already knows this? Just a thought.

AR knows nothing >.>

Pygmy, I like your vids a lot, and basically RLMG was one of my first serious introductions to poker. The torch is also a great job by you and Adrienne!

But I think in this one (I've only watched the beginning yet) you got something wrong when you argue that we can disregard the pot size when deciding whether a river bet is +EV.

If I understood it correctly, it says in the vid (around 3:30) that we have to be good 50% of the time to break even in a bet-call situation on the river, regardless of pot size. I don't understand this. Let's say the pot is 3 BB before the river action. In a bet-call situation (as well as in a check-call situation) I have to invest 1 BB to win 4. This means I am contributing 20% of the final pot (of 5 BB) with my river bet or call. Therefore, the break-even-point is when I win the pot 20% of the time (as 0,2*5=1, which is the 1 BB I risk to lose; or in terms of EV: (0,2*4)-(0,8*1)=0).

Disregarding the pot size would mean that I always have to win 50% of the time if I risk a bet on the river, regardless of whether the pot is 3 BB or 30 BB, which cannot be the case.

Or is it me who's getting something wrong here?

Kudos on the use (and I’m assuming continued use) of Stove. Help us Stove newbies out.

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A10 at 26:00. Board is 46J3
We open-raised in the HJ after UTG open-limped. SB CCs (this is Ax 80+% of the time verse these guys). We c-bet the flop and get 2 callers. Checks to Hero in position on the Turn…

Because of the board and $.5/1 stake, I would argue that this Turn is most likely a check for a few reasons. If we take the pot down with a Turn bet here, we had the best hand. I think this is pretty clear against these guys. If we are called, especially in two spots, I think it is very likely one of them has a Jack (more than 50% likely by the river?, looking forward to our possible v-bet on the river if we spike a T *wink* to awesome point in Xcel). The flop was rainbow and now the Turn brings the 4th suit, making it very unlikely that our opponents hold draws that can call our Turn bet. I would argue that this is the case in many low-low-high rainbow Flops with another low card Turn.
I don't like betting the Turn because we cannot v-bet a T profitably on the river against what I perceive to be their range. We also need to think about what worse hands can call on this board by the river. I could totally be wrong here, but I’m trying to look ahead to the river and our possible v-bet.

On boards like this (where there are few draws that can call our turn bet) and against LP opposition, I find the line of betting the Turn for a free SD with A-high to be rather ineffective, especially if our kicker is under the one high card on the board since I think v-betting a spiked T, in this instance, is tough. We also give up the opportunity for one of them to make a bad river bluff (opportunity cost ). We are putting only 1 more BB into the pot either way (verse betting the Turn).

Again, this is micro/low stakes and we are facing LP opposition, so this is my read. Just thought I would add my experienced 2 cents in this instance.

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KQo at 31:00
Would you please respond to this with some Xcel with why this is a river v-bet? I think this is super thin at best. LP have tooons of Ax combos here, as you mentioned, especially since the board is paired. Hearts missed and we chop with all Kx. I think we need to balance a little in regards to all players calling with any PP here since a K and now A hit the board (ie, is 55 calling always?). Are we b/f’ing always? Thanks.

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lol.
“He’s that kind of mean guy.”
“This is why I drink.”
Love it.

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ATo at 48:00
Insta- b/f river. If you are c/r, he has flush, A6/K6/J6, 66 all day.

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AKs at 54:00
9799T board. KQs (etc) is never folding so I think this is an easy v-bet.

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“Oh, the maniac was in the pot. I must have been pissed.” lol. Awesome. Been there.

10 points for the use of “Willy-Nilly.”

Pygmy, great analysis the whole way. You da man.

Jess, just a little tip I used when I started to really consider v-betting and river play. If you think you have a v-bet, bet and call if they raise. Most of the time they will just call and you will get paid. Also, calling this raise is never losing you a full BB, so consider this the price of learning. You will not miss value and you will always see the opponent’s hand. Then, later on (don’t tilt, move-on ) you can post/review the hand and analyze the situation. That way, next time the situation arises (a million times) you will know exactly what to do and never feel bad about your action.

Another BankRoll management tip I created for myself when my tilt was not as in check as it is now are Win/Lose STOPLOSS goals. Here is what I did/do if I feel tilty:
Buy in for XBB, I like 20BB. Once I drop below or rise above a 10/12BB swing either way, I uncheck “auto-post blinds.” When I’m tilty, my rule is that I MUST, MUST do this. Now, to RECHECK auto-post blinds, I need to find a LOT of good reasons to do so… ie, huge, utterly horrendous whale to my immediate right. Otherwise, finish the orbit and get up. This will insure that you always book a win when up and never book a huge loss. Take a break (whether you’re up OR down) if you feel ANY negative emotion. If you feel only positive emotion, find another good table. If not, listen to some music or whatever will help bring your emotions back up.

** post a sticky note on your computer that says “SMILE!!! =)” **

Ciao.

BG

~0:45
Attempt to make Jess say "about" in a Canadian accent (e.g., 'aboot').
Mission failed.

I forgot to say, such obv TARP !

Kudos

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Ciao.

BG

Wow BG you sure put a lot of work in your responses. GG.

lol.
“He’s that kind of mean guy.”
“This is why I drink.”
Love it.

lots of mean guys at .50/1

10 points for the use of “Willy-Nilly.”

I remember thinking along those lines when Pygmy busted that out!

** post a sticky note on your computer that says “SMILE!!! =)” **

Amigo will save the day imo

Great vid again, keep up the good work! I'm blaming poker also for my drinking habit!

it's only natural

17:00 UTG opens, HJ calls, CO and BTN fold. I agree totally that we muck Q3s, but what is the worst suited queen you call here?
20:00 KTo after 3 limpers. Definitely call here as your RIO is high. I'll raise KTs with any number of limpers.

Disregarding the pot size would mean that I always have to win 50% of the time if I risk a bet on the river when called, in order to break even ON THAT BET , regardless of whether the pot is 3 BB or 30 BB.

fyp

PH assumed, in his analysis, that you are always CALLED on the river. sometimes you have the best hand and win. sometimes you have the worst hand and lose. regardless, you are risking 1 bet on the river. and since you are always called, your reward is always 1 bet... the bet he/she calls you with.

the money that is already in the pot is not being risked. that money already belongs to someone and it doesn't matter who as far as the river betting is concerned in this scenario.

let's say you have the best hand at the river and the pot is x dollars at this point. when you now risk 1 more bet on the river and get called, how much more do you win? you win 1 more bet! you are risking 1 to win 1. it is a 1:1 ratio.

alternatively, let's say you have the worst hand at the river and the pot is x dollars at this point. when you now risk 1 more bet on the river and get called, how much more do you lose? you lose 1 more bet! you are risking 1 to win 1. it is a 1:1 ratio.

17:00 UTG opens, HJ calls, CO and BTN fold. I agree totally that we muck Q3s, but what is the worst suited queen you call here?

my first instinct was Q8s b/c it has reasonable pair value with an 8, plus it can make a 2 card straight. however, stoving, assuming a 15-20% range for UTG, and a reasonable ccing range for HJ, and a random for the BB (who i assumed is coming)... and it looks like we don't start to get our fair share of hot/cold equity until QTs.

if we assume BB doesn't come along, then its a bit worse for us (our equity as compared to our share), but we do get subsidized by the dead BB and our relative position is better.

fyp

PH assumed, in his analysis, that you are always CALLED on the river. sometimes you have the best hand and win. sometimes you have the worst hand and lose. regardless, you are risking 1 bet on the river. and since you are always called, your reward is always 1 bet... the bet he/she calls you with.

the money that is already in the pot is not being risked. that money already belongs to someone and it doesn't matter who as far as the river betting is concerned in this scenario.

let's say you have the best hand at the river and the pot is x dollars at this point. when you now risk 1 more bet on the river and get called, how much more do you win? you win 1 more bet! you are risking 1 to win 1. it is a 1:1 ratio.

alternatively, let's say you have the worst hand at the river and the pot is x dollars at this point. when you now risk 1 more bet on the river and get called, how much more do you lose? you lose 1 more bet! you are risking 1 to win 1. it is a 1:1 ratio.

Oh, how stupid of me - I was a little confused.
So basically, if I got it right now: The bet on the river is not money we risk in order to win the pot (but just to win 1 additional bet) and therefore pot size is irrelevant.
And therefore the break even point for the bet-call scenario is higher (we have to be good more often) than for calling a bet.

Thanks, always learning s.th. new ;-)

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