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I don't think I like that turn card.


motienko

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Villians: They both have TAGGY stats and neither has done anything noteworthy. 50 hands into the session. I should have the same image.

I am thinking on the flop, somebody has a worse Jack and somebody has KQ, and then the turn card hits. The SB could have a Ten or maybe something like 99 or 88 he is trying to protect. The buttons range should be a little more honest. TT and JJ are hands the villians may have chosen not to cap preflop so certainly possible here.

On the flop I should have about 43% equity. On the turn it goes down to about 18%. As always, please check my numbers. This takes into consideration how these guys would play preflop, discounting greatly them having AA,KK,QQ and discounting hands they could have, given the flop action.

Should I just bet and pray here and fold to a raise? But then again the pot will be huge, however, I have shown a ton of strength so a raise should be a monster usually...Yes?



Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is SB with A Heart J Diamond
3 folds, BTN raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, BTN calls

Flop: (9 SB) J Club T Heart 4 Spade (3 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, BTN 3-bets, Hero caps!, BB calls, BTN calls

Turn: (10.5 BB) 9 Heart (3 players)

Final Pot: 10.5 BB

Posted about 3 years ago

NoWayFolding

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I would call on flop rather than cap.

I think capping overreps your hands, and by capping we dont get info as to whether the BB would have capped or not.
This is valuable information. I mean on the flop we are really having to put 4bets in so why not get more info from it, and then it will make the turn esaier to play becuase if BB caps, then I think you are behind his range, and probably can c/c or c/f the turn.

Given the way you played it I would go into passive mode. I would check and if BB bets and btn raises I think its a clear fold otherwise check and call

Posted about 3 years ago

Oink

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Flop cap is fine imo. BB can have a bit of evrything and BTN only beats you if he has JT or 44 or mayyyybe TT.

Turn is one of those moments where I yell at the screen and my girlfriend says I have been spending too much time playing poker and not enough time being normal.

I think you have to bet out here and call a single raise. If it goes raise/3-bet behind you I'd say you can fold.

Posted about 3 years ago

MickeyWins

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I pretty much gree with oink.

your c-bet means nothing.
the BB raise could be a weak pp, or a T or any J
the btns 3 bet could be QJ KJ, KQ looking fro a free card with plenty of equity or ofcourse hands you dont want to see.
your cap is ok vs this range IMO.

you have to bet out on turn, and you have to call a raise on pot odd and hand strength.

the river UI if raised on the turn, is dicey and perhaps river card dependent.
I would not call a K or Q.

Posted about 3 years ago

sweetjazz3

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Don't forget that their ranges could easily include Q9/98/KJ/QJ/AJ/worse and you beat (or tie) all of these at the moment. Pot is too large to think about folding just yet. You shouldn't put more than 3 BB into the pot on the two big streets and if you do get raised on the turn you basically have to check/call the river even if you improve (and check/fold if a Q or K hits).

Posted about 3 years ago

BigBadBabar

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agree with oink, i think flop cap is fine and i don't see anything other than a bet on this turn

Posted about 3 years ago




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