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Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is SB with Q 9
1 fold, BTN calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, BTN calls

Flop: (5 SB) Q 3 5 (2 players)
Hero bets, BTN calls

Turn: (3.5 BB) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets, BTN raises, Hero calls

River: (7.5 BB) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets, Hero raises, BTN 3-bets, Hero ???

I'd been completing the sb with my middling range and was really not getting anywhere, I decided to switch to a more aggressive style at this point, which is why I iso'd the btn, also my hand is gooot .
Villain seems competent post-flop no real reads other than limping the btn which is bad obv.

What is villains range here after 3-betting the river, and how are we doing vs it?

IMO:
made 2flush, 67cc, 33, 55, 88, 99
also possible he's overplaying 2pair, also AA or KK slowplayed and massively spewed (which is what that playertype is capable of)

wtb stats or reads! (what limit as well)

If villain is lp over a large sample i'm heavily considering folding the turn with tpmk.
I call the river as played and cross my fingers. I think it's much more likely villain has a made flush or set than not here. nh

IMO:
made 2flush, 67cc, 33, 55, 88, 99
also possible he's overplaying 2pair, also AA or KK slowplayed and massively spewed (which is what that playertype is capable of)

wtb stats or reads! (what limit as well)

If villain is lp over a large sample i'm heavily considering folding the turn with tpmk.
I call the river as played and cross my fingers. I think it's much more likely villain has a made flush or set than not here. nh

Nice post.

Game created this table so played ~30 hands with villain, seemed straightforward post-flop not overly passive such as his ol would indicate. Stakes are .25/.50, and I have no tracking software or stats.


It seemed like an obv X/R at game speed. Do you think villains river value range is wide enough to pay off a X/R where we win?

If no what is the best river line?

IMOx2:
30 hands is no HUD read even if you had it. I believe the fact that he ol his btn is more information than anything our HUD can provide at this point. I'd assume that he is almost certainly going to turn out to be a standard LP SSL player.

As played I definitely fold the turn without a note saying he can ck/r semibluff or just massively spews.

Once you are already at the river, your hand improves (optically). The call then turn raise line is generally a monster from LP players in SSL. I believe our opponent is almost always going to bet the river, but I am uncomfortable ck/r here for the simple fact that I hate opening myself up to a 3! in this spot. I beleive the river is a spot where I would donk/call or ck/c (maybe mubsy on the latter). If I had seen opponent do something spewey even once over 30 hands i'd be donk/calling here. (i'd prefer 1 or 2 rather than 0 or 1)

There is a video series called "the eightfold path to poker enlightenment" on DC. I believe they touch on the concept of anticipation, which I think would help you with these types of spots in the future. I think the ck/r on the river in this spot is dangerous vs an optical LP who could be anticipated to 3! your river ck/r a lot.

I think I like b/c better, because we can still get two bets in good against Q8/Q5/85 or a frisky 98 without having to put in three. This is totally a ROT-based decision, but I think it's the best one in this type of spot where he has a few monsters we beat, many that we don't, and we don't mind two going in but want to die when three go in, which is fairly common.

i'd call the riv 3bet and play the rest the same as you

I think the hand looks fine as played, assuming you just called the river 3bet. My guess for villain's hand is K 8.

First of all I like you isolating the limper preflop, flop and turn seems good as well.

On the turn I might give him Qx, 8x, 33 or 55 but also very often he might be semi bluffing here with flushdraws or a hand like 67, TJ, 46,

The river does improve your hand and you now beat any 2 pair hands which he might have had but also completes all semi bluffs. I think I'd like a b/c more then x/r on this board.