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The opposite of a turn brick

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grandmofftarkin

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Villain is 25/20 over couple hundred hands. No specific notes on post flop…everything seems pretty solid on his end.

Merge - $0.50/$1 (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $93.65
BB: $36.91
UTG: $25.33
Hero (MP): $52.00
CO: $5.65
BTN: $32.94

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has KSpade TSpade

fold, Hero raises to $1.00, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25, 2 players) JDiamond 2Diamond TClub
BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB raises to $1.00, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($4.25, 2 players) 9Diamond
BB bets $1.00, Hero?

Posted 11 months ago

grandmofftarkin

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the only worse value hands I beat on the flop that raise me are QT, T9, and T8--and I'm not sure how often all of those get raised on the flop. The semibluff draws that may raise the flop just got there: Diamond's, KQ--though 98 didn't. Calling getting 5-1 didn't seem like the right price given RIO if a 4th Diamond hits, or I improve and am already behind.

Posted 11 months ago

BigBadBabar

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i think it's a fine spot to fold.

Posted 11 months ago

SIide

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I don't think we can fold the turn (if that was your question.) River seems like an ok fold if villain is straight forward.

Posted 10 months ago

midget

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I think it ia a pretty clear fold on that turn if we assume that villains range is MP+ hands and all OESD:s and Fdraws when he raises flop. I think it is closer if he raises all gsdraws but even then I think it is a fold.

EDIT: After changing some numbers in Cardrunners I actually want to calldown on a non-diamond river.

Posted 10 months ago

Entity

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the only worse value hands I beat on the flop that raise me are QT, T9, and T8--and I'm not sure how often all of those get raised on the flop. The semibluff draws that may raise the flop just got there: Diamond's, KQ--though 98 didn't. Calling getting 5-1 didn't seem like the right price given RIO if a 4th Diamond hits, or I improve and am already behind.


The turn looks really bad but as long as he's C/R most of his OESDs I'm pretty sure you have to call again. I'd need to bust out combonator here to be certain, but I think calling down on non diamonds/non 8-9s is probably better than folding. You can even get value from some of those hands which will c/r, barrel, then check to induce on the river.

Posted 10 months ago




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