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Blood sugar levels have to stay within a certain range. When fruit gets digested the fructose hits your bloodstream causing insulin to be released which stops your body using fat as an energy source and opens up "gates" to the fat, liver, etc for the fructose (now glucose) to be stored in so your blood sugar doesn't get too high. You don't get the response from fat/protein.

what do you mean by this? fructose is a monosaccharide so it won't be broken down into glucose (a different monosaccharide)

Cannabilism has a long history with the human race so human flesh is probably the best poker snack food, as long as you are selective about who you eat. You don't want to eat anyone who limps into pots nor do you want to eat anyone who calls to the river with bottom pair. Stay away from anyone who has administered FullTilt, it will just make you greedy and lose perspective on the value of money.

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what do you mean by this? fructose is a monosaccharide so it won't be broken down into glucose (a different monosaccharide)

Edit: Apparently it's done in the liver by breaking down the fructose into pyruvate then it can be built back up into glycogen or glucose, I just assumed it would have to get converted somewhere along the line before it was stored as fat. I feel pretty unsure about all this now so could be totally wrong Fat cells can't store fructose right?

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_(beverage) ?

nah different again

Oh btw with the diet being a headfuck thing, I agree, and you can't anyone's word for anything... I'm sure I'm wrong about a ton of things. But don't take "health organizations" word for it either. Generally they're funded by industries with an agenda (look at the healthy food pyramid... 6-11 servings of grain! That's alot! Oh wait it was created by the US department of agriculture). The good thing is we're in an age now where you can sceptically assess the data yourself and draw your own conclusions. Of course there's resources that will help this along, something like Tim Ferriss's 4 Hour Body would be a good start, easy to understand without too much bias and based on sourced evidence/studies rather than opinion. Also has a decent amount of data on vegetarian/vegan diets and how to make them work well.

Checked out 4hourbody thingo, idk call me a pessimist but come on, seems fairly crazy some of his claims

How to prevent fat gain while bingeing (X-mas, holidays, weekends)
How to increase fat-loss 300% with a few bags of ice
How Tim gained 34 pounds of muscle in 28 days, without steroids, and in four hours of total gym time
How to sleep 2 hours per day and feel fully rested
How to produce 15-minute female orgasms
How to triple testosterone and double sperm count
How to go from running 5 kilometers to 50 kilometers in 12 weeks
How to reverse "permanent" injuries
How to add 150+ pounds to your lifts in 6 months



Have any opinions on optimal sleeping patterns?

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crazy thing is, here's a guy who sleeps bugger all and fairly sure his cycle is all over the place, doesn't exercise much, fairly sure eats a fair amount of junk food and yet, he still manages to grind the nosebleeds for ~ 8 hours a day, wtf. still haven't figured out if i should envy or despise him

Checked out 4hourbody thingo, idk call me a pessimist but come on, seems fairly crazy some of his claims

All of those claims are just marketing to sell the book, at least check out an excerpt, it's legit and not really like that for the most part.

But to uncover a little of the marketing hype... the 2 hour sleep thing is a polyphasic schedule (20 minute nap every 4 hours) which has some people claiming to do it but no big studies on it yet, completely impractical for 99.9% of the readers. The doubling sperm count was from him taking his mobile phone out of his pocket (he tried a ton of things before that and none of it worked). Fat loss is from ice baths. 34 pounds of muscles is probably him being that big before and having muscle memory, although he does some pretty legit research into inducing huge results with the least work possible. As you can see those claims are just small things to sell the book, there are very few claims/recommendations he makes that aren't very well presented, researched and sourced yet at the same time interesting and easy to understand.

Are circus peanuts a high protein snack? If not I could go with a hostess apple pie to get my fruit in

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I'm not your buddy, pal.

So I woke up like an hour ago, and saw there was 37 unread replies to my thread.. and I gotta say guys, I lost track by now, but thx to all the contributors, and when I have better time ima read all of the evidence on the various statements.

There is some gold in this thread guys. I'm going to be contacting all the experts for my new dieting venture: MoussesCracked.com

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bxenLc6Ocw

this is a real banana
this is what humans might have ate 10,000+ years ago in the wild, when most of our evolution had already happened.

this is a bunch of nonsense

If I remember correctly, there are a huge number of varieties of banana. The one that we used to eat in the UK got wiped out pretty much at some stage of history, and we started using another one. I know that's vague, but I watched a program on it half drunk a couple of years ago!

My point is, you can't say the first banana is real and the second is not, they are just different varieties.

Blood sugar levels have to stay within a certain range. When fruit gets digested the fructose hits your bloodstream causing insulin to be released which stops your body using fat as an energy source and opens up "gates" to the fat, liver, etc for the fructose (now glucose) to be stored in so your blood sugar doesn't get too high. You don't get the response from fat/protein.

Oh btw I should have mentioned earlier... I'm not saying don't ever eat fruit I generally eat it once a week. In fact there's some evidence that eating fruit in the mornings will reduce insulin levels throughout the day.



en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_(beverage) ?

Oh btw with the diet being a headfuck thing, I agree, and you can't anyone's word for anything... I'm sure I'm wrong about a ton of things. But don't take "health organizations" word for it either. Generally they're funded by industries with an agenda (look at the healthy food pyramid... 6-11 servings of grain! That's alot! Oh wait it was created by the US department of agriculture). The good thing is we're in an age now where you can sceptically assess the data yourself and draw your own conclusions. Of course there's resources that will help this along, something like Tim Ferriss's 4 Hour Body would be a good start, easy to understand without too much bias and based on sourced evidence/studies rather than opinion. Also has a decent amount of data on vegetarian/vegan diets and how to make them work well.

I agree its good to be skeptical, but I would certainly take the recommendations of the health organisations over this guy who claims he can triple your sperm count, boost female orgasm etc etc. He doesn't have an agenda? Having arguments based on scientific research is not hard in the field of health, you can support just about any argument that way. Some years back I lived in a community in Scotland where a number of people basically had drink problems. Study after study came out highlighting the dangers of drinking too much. The health service collated these in leaflets based on the best latest research. All ignored. Then one study in Wales announced it was good for health to have a few pints of beer a day. That was it settled - they were all talking about it in the pub, explaining how science had proved that drinking 4+ pints of beer a night was good for their health.

Oh, and while I'm at it, I'm not sure you can drape the stars and stripes over that food pyramid thing, but I may be wrong!

Personally I would take the advice of somewhere like the World Health Organisation above anyone who decides to publish on the web. WHO guys are well qualified, and can be held accountable for their advice. A guy on the Internet can just disappear.

On an evolutionary scale all of that is pretty insignificant, I was more so referring to 10k-200k years ago. In any case evo biology is pretty tricky and evolving in environments with only seasonal access to fruits may not mean that's the best way, was just trying to provide some perspective that perhaps the "daily fruit consumption for good health" line we're bombarded with may not be as solid as we've believed it to be. Like a year ago I thought you would probably die/get very sick if you don't eat fruit for 3-6 months, but people have been subjected to that for eternity and do fine.

While I'm on a roll, you have to remember the government is acting epidemeologically with its advice. Would it be good for the health of the nation if everyone had 2 pieces of fruit a day? For sure, for a start it may mean some guy chooses not to super-size (or whatever it is these days) his fries because he filled up earlier on a banana. Somebody who is health conscious and figured out their diet to the umpteenth detail isn't the target for this advice.

Will the whole population live longer if they cut down on salt? Perhaps not, but if 30% will that its hugely worth their while giving that advice.

The advise doesn't have to improve everybody's health, it just needs to do enough to improve the health of the nation in total.