Grindcore
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Btw the audio levels were a bit off imo. With some background noise (not in the video but in my room), in order to understand blah the volume had to be turned up to such a volume that Ansky became uncomfortably loud. So either Ansky has to turn down his mic, or blah has to increase it, or the volume has to be normalized in the production process (Rusty probably knows how to do that).
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blah234
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In Hand 2, if we are in villain's shoes, what's the worst hand we value bet on the river vs a good solid reg in the BB, what size do we make the bottom of our value betting range and why? Are we valuebetting anything less than AQ? Ever JJ-99, or QJ?
I've never played agasint the player "solid reg" so no idea how I would construct my betting range vs him. The more likely someone is to raise or fold the less you should value bet thinly. Value betting too thin vs certain players is a leak too.
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I've never played agasint the player "solid reg" so no idea how I would construct my betting range vs him.
I know what you are saying - that you work to gather reads on your opponents, so "solid reg" is too vague. But my point was vs someone who you hadnt played long enough with to have detailed reads, but who seemed to be fairly competent from the few hands you have played with him. In other words, your standard play vs someone who was obviously a reg, but without in depth reads on him.
The more likely someone is to raise or fold the less you should value bet thinly. Value betting too thin vs certain players is a leak too.
If they are that likely to play raise or fold with their whole (or most) of their range, why can't you bet/call?
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blah234
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If they are that likely to play raise or fold with their whole (or most) of their range, why can't you bet/call?
this person is either a maniac or a nit. Watch coaching kristy on how to play against these player types.
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Loved the format!!!
On the 98 suited hand where blah flops a huge combo draw and doesn't 4 bet agressively I was confused...
My coach told me last week on any combo draws raise with the intention of getting it allin.
Maybe my coach was wrong? Oh wait my coach is BLAH lololoolololololol
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blah234
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Loved the format!!!
On the 98 suited hand where blah flops a huge combo draw and doesn't 4 bet agressively I was confused...
My coach told me last week on any combo draws raise with the intention of getting it allin.
Maybe my coach was wrong? Oh wait my coach is BLAH lololoolololololol
I'm pretty sure I said to ship when we're OOP. IP I don't ship my draws that much on the flop because we have more options. But ansky made a good point that if we take more passive lines then it allows villain the chance to bluff us when the draw miss.
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this person is either a maniac or a nit. Watch coaching kristy on how to play against these player types.
My point is this - you asserted that "the more likely someone is to raise or fold the less you should value bet thinly." This statement simply isn't completely true. It depends on what range they are going to raise when they go into raise or fold mode. Yes, if they are going to raise with most hands that beat you and fold most hands you beat, then you shouldnt value bet thinly (obviously). But if they are going to go into raise or fold mode and lean toward raising with a lot of made hands that you beat, then you can bet/call, and value betting thinly become profitable, despite your assertion that "the more likely someone is to raise or fold the less you should value bet thinly." And just because someone turns enough made hands into a bluff such that you have pot odds to call doesn't make them a maniac. Do you honestly think that most regs are always that balanced with their bluffs in every spot that you can never bet/call vs them when they are going to play raise or fold?? Have you never bet to INDUCE a bluff raise from made hands vs a reg?
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If the river paired the board and Villain instant ship it? Lets say a if T or J hit? Would you consider folding against this Villain?
No, he can still be valueshoving worse and he might not fastplay a set like that 100% of the time, especially 200bbs deep. Even the worst river card for us, 3h, he could use as a scarecard to fire his air at.
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If the river paired the board and Villain instant ship it? Lets say a if T or J hit? Would you consider folding against this Villain?
If I call here it's because I think villain will be likely to bluff alot of rivers so folding is out of the question. Like grindcore said villain can be jamming a worse flush as well.
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Ansky says he doesn't like the river bluff because blah is representing exactly an 8 and there's just not that many 8s he can have. But earlier he suggested that he doesn't like jamming an 8 for value. Unless we think his range is either KQ/8x or complete air, then don't aren't those two things contradictory? If he can have hands in between a straight and air, then isn't either bluffing with AQ here or value jamming 8x here good, depending on what we expect him to do with his stuff in between?
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