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Acomb, yeah that sounds awesome, jealous you have something like that nearby. Of all the stuff you listed there the dressings are gonna be the "least" healthy btw, maybe they have some extra virgin olive oil or something similar?

Acomb, yeah that sounds awesome, jealous you have something like that nearby. Of all the stuff you listed there the dressings are gonna be the "least" healthy btw, maybe they have some extra virgin olive oil or something similar?

I meant to mention that and then lost my train of thought and forgot to post it.

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pretty much gonna eat here 2 times a day now thanks to this thread! I will just avoid the sweetcorn and jobs tear and stick to the organic pumpkin sauce

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pretty much gonna eat here 2 times a day now thanks to this thread! I will just avoid the sweetcorn and jobs tear and stick to the organic pumpkin sauce

If you can, ask what they put in the pumpkin sauce - it's probably ok but I know of some recipes that put sugar in pumpkin sauce. Going with straight EVOO or EVOO+balsamic vinegar is probably best (and delicious).

Rob

Cool thread. Just wanted to add a couple of book titles to the list going here:

Fantastic Voyage: Live Long Enough to Live Forever
http://www.amazon.com/Fantastic-Voyage-Live-Enough-Forever/dp/1579549543

Transcend: Nine Steps to Living Well Forever
http://www.amazon.com/Transcend-Nine-Steps-Living-Forever/dp/B003GAN06W/ref=pd_sim_b_1

Both are by Ray Kurzweil and Terry Grossman. I read Fantastic Voyage several years ago and purchased Transcend a few months back (haven't gotten around to reading it cover-to-cover). Kurzweil is a big futurist guy, so he focuses heavily on the biomedical advances that he believes will significantly extend life expectancy within the century. Sorta interesting, but imo what made these books worth buying is Kurzweil's meticulous approach to diet...which, as far as I can tell, is basically identical to the Primal Blueprint. He recommends loading up on vegetables and fish, avoiding all processed foods and sugar, eating low-glycemic load carbs in moderation, etc. One thing that really struck me was his description of a bowl of Wheaties as essentially a bowl of sugar...both instantly cause insulin spikes and turn your blood into a "pink cream." It's easy to look at the nutrition facts on breakfast cereal and be like "oh, it has all these vitamins and only 3 grams of sugar per serving - looks healthy," but the reality is these refined, high-glycemic carbohydrates do more harm than good.

I think Kurzweil is pretty extreme in some of his practices (i.e. he takes like 250 supplements a day), but his diet advice is spot on and he backs it up with a lot of scientific evidence.

The thing that's a little counter-intuitive is the no beans, no corn, no soy (soysauce, miso, tofu), peanuts, and no starchy root vegetables like potato, yam, carrot, turnip, parsnip.

but i liked the explanation in De Vany's "The New Evolution Diet" of seeds as in an evolutionary arms race with predators. one of the defense mechanisms plants have is to make the seeds bitter or harmful to the predator eating it. so what are seeds? grains, beans, corn, soy. if it can sprout, stay away.

but as for the starchy root vegetables (tubers), Evolution Diet didn't really go into too much details here. wikipedia says they're the part of the plant used for asexual reproduction. and they're in the dirt.

so i'm getting the general idea here. eating anything related to the plant's reproduction is BAD. it will try to punish you, in its passive-aggressive plant way. leave the seeds alone. leave things in the dirt alone. but onions are ok. they're in the dirt but not tubers.

but The Primal Blueprint is perfectly fine with tubers like carrot, turnip, parsnip, fwiw

this stuff is pretty interesting once you get into it. (especially when you start getting that newbie big head while walking around the grocery and saying, "yup, that guy's on a poverty diet... poverty diet... oh man that guy's pretty bad off, poverty diet," then i realize that i was on the poverty diet also not 3 days ago *facepalm* )

<me 5 minutes after the above post> "but... but... berries have seeds all over them! OMG! OMG!!"

... and today i learned some plants want you to eat their seeds by baiting it with sweet, nutritious juices and advertises them by making them bright colors. nature's pretty cool... (except when it's trying to kill me obv)

then i realize that i was on the poverty diet also not 3 days ago *facepalm*

this is some crazy cool stuff from the Primal Blueprint forum.

Thread: Those weird little bonuses

this is some crazy cool stuff from the Primal Blueprint forum.

Thread: Those weird little bonuses

But all these people saying that not farting as much is a good thing??

thanks for making this thread.
i'm healthy (193cm/6'4'' at about 88kg/194lbs) going to the gym, cycling to work every day etc. eating relatively well balanced, trying to get my 5-a-day (that's perhaps a UK thing, just meaning 5 portions of fruit or veg a day) as much as i can. but eating pasta, rice, bread etc all the time.
never ever thought of any dieting. now i read this thread (haven't heard of primal or paleo or any of this stuff) and instantly bought The Primal Blueprint and also the accompanying cookbook. just waiting for the amazon shipment. i'm sooo going to give this a go.

but i think i'll fail i'm just not sure i can cut out my toast with jam, lasagne, pizza etc... omg this sounds so incredibly hard. is this really achievable at all? can one just cut out bread, rice and pasta just like that? looking forward to see what happens. but i'm going to paris for 4 days with my girlfriend, in a month, i'm not sure if starting a diet before that is a good idea at all

thanks for making this thread.
i'm healthy (193cm/6'4'' at about 88kg/194lbs) going to the gym, cycling to work every day etc. eating relatively well balanced, trying to get my 5-a-day (that's perhaps a UK thing, just meaning 5 portions of fruit or veg a day) as much as i can. but eating pasta, rice, bread etc all the time.
never ever thought of any dieting. now i read this thread (haven't heard of primal or paleo or any of this stuff) and instantly bought The Primal Blueprint and also the accompanying cookbook. just waiting for the amazon shipment. i'm sooo going to give this a go.

but i think i'll fail i'm just not sure i can cut out my toast with jam, lasagne, pizza etc... omg this sounds so incredibly hard. is this really achievable at all? can one just cut out bread, rice and pasta just like that? looking forward to see what happens. but i'm going to paris for 4 days with my girlfriend, in a month, i'm not sure if starting a diet before that is a good idea at all

Its a trucking nightmare I tell you, I need my complex carbs, and I go absolutely mental at night when I am without them. Like aggressive towards my GF, can't sleep and stuff
However a friend of mine switched to the low carb, negative calorie stuff ,1500 calorie per day vegetable, omega oil no eating after 6 apart from fish oil or brown bread before sleep (that apparently keeps your digestive system online and you burn more calories than you put in) and he says its super hard in the first week but after that the body gets used to the absence of complex carbs and it works like caffeine addiction which you can get rid of in a week or two.

I got my exams coming and he strongly recommended not to go through this when I am studying, but I it will be my first challenge and test of self control when I finish my exams

I have been on it now for as about as long as this thread has been going (9 days or so). Missing grains a little bit, but more than making up for it with eating loads of delicious animal fat (lamb chops - soooo good) and eggs - stuff conventional wisdom says is a no-no.

I don't think it has to be an "all or nothing" type thing. The website talks about and "80/20" rule - trying to do the right thing 80% of the time. That makes a lot of sense - it isn't a "diet", rather a different way of eating. If you "fail" or splurge once in while, that doesn't matter, so long as it doesn't become something you do all the time.

Interestingly, a number of the comments on the website talk about losing the taste for grains/sugar when you cut them out. I am interested in seeing whether that will be the case for me.

super hard in the first week but after that the body gets used to the absence of complex carbs and it works like caffeine addiction which you can get rid of in a week or two

Yup I experienced this

Interestingly, a number of the comments on the website talk about losing the taste for grains/sugar when you cut them out. I am interested in seeing whether that will be the case for me.

And this, I found I'm pretty sensitive to sugar now too. I had half a can of coke on one of my cheat days and felt anxious/jittery/mind racing for like 4 hours, couldn't do anything that required mental focus like reading.

starting this diet tonight will post my current weight later on but I think its around 75kg and I am 179cm