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The Eightfold Path to Poker Enlightenment: Episode Six

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The Eightfold Path to Poker Enlightenment: Episode Six by Tommy Angelo

Right speech. How to talk, how to type, how to be polite, how to protect your thoughts. All these topics and more.

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Join Tommy Angelo (author of Elements of Poker) and Wayne Lively as they embark on the Eightfold Path to Poker Enlightenment. This remarkable series is an excellent companion to Tommy's book and has been lovingly crafted over the past year. Featuring brand new musical composition from Tommy, this series is designed with the iPod in mind and transcends standard video poker training. Watch. Listen. Breathe. Win.

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  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 57 minutes long
  • Posted almost 4 years ago

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SnappieVouz

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lol It seems this episode was made for me.

I know berating the fish is a bad thing to do, but I do exactly the same as Wayne does. I get a bad beat and I just NEED to tell my opponent that he/she played the hand horrible.
I do this super sarcastic by saying "nice hand, you played that hand SUPER well, calling the flop, and calling almost your whole stack off to hit on the river, SUPER.. you are going to be the next Phil ivey!!"

After that I already feel bad by doing it

Something I also do is when I had a horrible session jumping into the forum/aim to tell everybody poker is a game of luck

man, this was a great episode. Awareness, i love it

Posted almost 4 years ago

kkeorc

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I know berating the fish is a bad thing to do, but I do exactly the same as Wayne does. I get a bad beat and I just NEED to tell my opponent that he/she played the hand horrible.
I do this super sarcastic by saying "nice hand, you played that hand SUPER well, calling the flop, and calling almost your whole stack off to hit on the river, SUPER.. you are going to be the next Phil ivey!!"

After that I already feel bad by doing it



#2

But I feel good afterwards.


Not berating the fish after a bad beat makes it more likely that I go on tilt although I really don't have big tilt issues. It's sort of like an outlet.


Maybe this episode will help me to get rid of it entirely. So far this (awesome) series really helped improving my overall game.

Posted almost 4 years ago

teneights

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Heart Heart Heart

Great series, this might just be one step towards tiltlessness for me. My biggest leak

Posted almost 4 years ago

Wayne Lively

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It was not easy confessing my sins. This is my biggest problem. I don't really tilt in the traditional sense, but I sure do when it comes to taking a hammer to the glass. Mostly it's ego. You know you are smarter than they are, and by accusing them (accurately) of being fish, you maintain your superiority in the face of evidence you're an idiot.

If I could change one thing I do, this is it. Do as I say, not as I do. Smile

Glad you guys are enjoying the series. It is our contribution to mankind.

Best wishes,

Wayne

Posted almost 4 years ago

SnappieVouz

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Hm i didn't know i had such a huge ego

I got a lot of testoteron though

Posted almost 4 years ago

noface

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It was not easy confessing my sins. This is my biggest problem. I don't really tilt in the traditional sense, but I sure do when it comes to taking a hammer to the glass. Mostly it's ego. You know you are smarter than they are, and by accusing them (accurately) of being fish, you maintain your superiority in the face of evidence you're an idiot.

If I could change one thing I do, this is it. Do as I say, not as I do. Smile

Glad you guys are enjoying the series. It is our contribution to mankind.

Best wishes,

Wayne



Sorry but this comes off as pure hubris. 8(

Posted almost 4 years ago

CoRdo

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In the video you said something about the famous "I didn't get what I deserve." And it obviously is wrong speech. But by not saying it I recon that it still is in my head and I still think it. I can manage to not say anything, but I still think it. And thinking about it makes me suffer. So how can I get it out of my mind? It's like you said in the beginning, by closing my mouth it sticks in my head and, well it doesn't literally explode eventually but it feels like.

Something I experienced maybe a year ago was when I played a big tournament with my friends. We all played and talked on skype. And on the money bubble everyone had a healthy chipstack expect me. Then I caught AA and went all in just to get called by 66 and he rivered me. So I went out of the tournament just before the money while all my friends were still in. I wasn't actually mad at the guy with 66. It was me busting out just before the money through a rough beat and everyone else making the money. They sort of ignored it and just said "oh, that's bad" and went on talking about their hands and other things. So I basically wanted them to express condolences to me just to feel better. And the really bad part was when I hoped that they would bust out quickly too so I am not the one left behind. And I really feel bad about hoping my friends would bust out.
But even if I didn't say anything after busting out (and I didn't tell them that I hoped they would bust) I still feel so bad and it still is in my mind.

Oh there's something I wanna add to right speech on the internet: Writing properly, and properly meaning writing capital letters, commas, don't instead of dont etc., is a big part of right speech I think. It makes you reflect more on what you write and it's just easier to read for others.

Posted almost 4 years ago

Hellsen

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just wanted to say thanks for being awesome. offering videos like the eightfold path to poker enlightment in FOUR different formats AND drm free is really cool. keep up the good work.

Posted almost 4 years ago

Entity

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just wanted to say thanks for being awesome. offering videos like the eightfold path to poker enlightment in FOUR different formats AND drm free is really cool. keep up the good work.


Heart we do what we can. Smile

Rob

Posted almost 4 years ago

Gauss

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like the piano riff at 19:50. pithy. dont like cutting the Stones like a rainbow short right before the delicious part, its like not getting off with sex. these are my thoughts.

Posted almost 4 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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In the video you said something about the famous "I didn't get what I deserve." And it obviously is wrong speech. But by not saying it I recon that it still is in my head and I still think it. I can manage to not say anything, but I still think it. And thinking about it makes me suffer. So how can I get it out of my mind?




By training your mind so that you are able to take charge of what is and isn't going on in your mind at any given moment. A simple (not to be confused with easy, cuz it ain't) and effective way to do this training is to count your breaths many times every day.


Oh there's something I wanna add to right speech on the internet: Writing properly, and properly meaning writing capital letters, commas, don't instead of dont etc., is a big part of right speech I think. It makes you reflect more on what you write and it's just easier to read for others.



Here's an article I wrote on that topic. This was an argument I couldn't possibly lose! :-)

http://tommyangelo.com/articles/its_all_well_and_good.htm

Posted almost 4 years ago

Mindworm

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Fantastic series.

I'm curious about some aspects of table talk, specifically shutdown answers. I've often responded to "what did you have" with "cards and chips." I'm wondering if that's just a little too smartass. Should I just shut up when confronted with that question?

Posted almost 4 years ago

the_luke

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My wife loves cats, but has a phobia of green tree frogs. Thus, the end of the video was very much joy turned to suffering.

Love the series, big part of why I signed up to DC.

-Luke

Posted almost 4 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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Fantastic series.

I'm curious about some aspects of table talk, specifically shutdown answers. I've often responded to "what did you have" with "cards and chips." I'm wondering if that's just a little too smartass. Should I just shut up when confronted with that question?



It's really amazing how many questions at the poker table just scream out for some kind of smart ass reply. "What did you have" is very often one of those questions. You really only have four choices: Give an actual answer, meaning cards, that sounds serious (even if it's a lie), ignore the questioner entirely, give a smartass reply (such as "cards and chips"), or tell the real truth, such as "I'd rather not say."

I've done them all a zillion times each. Not saying anything is not ideal. But for me, nowadays, it's always the correct "least of evils" choice. The think that makes silence so much better than any of the others in my opinion is that any reaction at all brings you down to the level of the questioner. It means that you care about the question, and the answer, and the opinions formed because of them. It sends a message that you care about all the stuff that is exactly the same stuff that makes it impossible to really focus on the next hand. Basically it means you are just like the person who asked the question. If you want to separate yourself from him/them, then silence is the only way.

But let's say that's not an option. Of the remaining options, I think a smart-ass answer is the worst choice. But it's close.

Tommy

Posted almost 4 years ago




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