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Poker Video: Misc/Other by WiltOnTilt (Micro/Small Stakes)

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33 min J9s hand.

I think that the EV calculation for the turn play is only correct if you make the assumption that he can never raise. This looks like a wrong assumption to me.

If for example this villain either jams or folds in this spot, our equity is irrelevant.

33 min J9s hand.

I think that the EV calculation for the turn play is only correct if you make the assumption that he can never raise. This looks like a wrong assumption to me.

If for example this villain either jams or folds in this spot, our equity is irrelevant.

it's only irrelevant if we're never considering a call. against weak players such as this they could raise to an amount that still prices us in.

but you're right, I should have done a better job of explaining that, and not just commenting about the fact that it doesn't take into account any river actions.

The example was supposed to simply show how you could go about analyzing a situation based on info learned in a theory video, but I do agree with you I should have been more clear about what considerations that particular formula doesn't cover.

Thanks for watching

WoT

I don't know excel either, so how is it going to improve my poker game if I need to make the EV sheet and learn excel for it?Oh I forgot the Dude is downloadable.

Favorite Quote: "I don't want to beat this horse until he is totally dead."

I don't know excel either, so how is it going to improve my poker game if I need to make the EV sheet and learn excel for it?

the act of doing it yourself improves your understanding of the formula. i even put the exact excel syntax for setting it up right in the video.

the horse is now totally dead!

its probably more useful to do it all by hand then.

its probably more useful to do it all by hand then.

Maybe the first couple times just to make sure you know the formula... but using excel speeds the calculations for you so you don't have to do the work... as long as you know how the equation works and how the variables are connected.

Maybe the first couple times just to make sure you know the formula... but using excel speeds the calculations for you so you don't have to do the work... as long as you know how the equation works and how the variables are connected.

I thought I went over this in the video...it was in my notes to talk about, but if I didn't this is a pretty good summary.

Oh I forgot the Dude is downloadable.

When I created the speadsheet which eventually became "The Dude!" I basically did exactly what WoT advocates in this video. I learned all the math that I used for "The Dude" from WoT's awesome math series and I felt I needed to understand it better (i.e. practice). I never actually used pen and paper but every time I had to solve a math problem in my session reviews, I fired up an empty excel (openoffice) sheet. I did this until felt comfortable with the equations and after a while it became more of a boring task to everytime create everything from scratch. So I put in a few hours and created the spreadsheet which now allows me to go over math situations way quicker than before. However I could do all these equations on my own and that is also what I encourage everyone to do at the end of my video. If you download it and use it without understanding the math behind it, it won't do you any good.

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At first: I just wanna to say thank you for this great series - I love it^^

regards to the whole EV-calculation, one question:

It did not onlymiss the riverplay, but also exspecially the probability that we will got 3betted on turn or got shoved - I guess it is just too complicated with too many different variables to consider this (for us negative) scenario - but how realistic is then our consideration here - let`s say on a scala from 1-10 - what you think?

At first: I just wanna to say thank you for this great series - I love it^^

regards to the whole EV-calculation, one question:

It did not onlymiss the riverplay, but also exspecially the probability that we will got 3betted on turn or got shoved - I guess it is just too complicated with too many different variables to consider this (for us negative) scenario - but how realistic is then our consideration here - let`s say on a scala from 1-10 - what you think?

You're right, it is a consideration that I left out of the video (for simplicity sake). I usually like to break down the problem into smaller parts anyway and examine the profitability of each separate part, then try to estimate how often he will be shoving over or calling or folding to determine the overall profitability of the play.

In this particular case, I think he'll be calling and folding way more often than shoving, but you are correct it is something you need to consider and think about.

You're right, it is a consideration that I left out of the video (for simplicity sake). I usually like to break down the problem into smaller parts anyway and examine the profitability of each separate part, then try to estimate how often he will be shoving over or calling or folding to determine the overall profitability of the play.

In this particular case, I think he'll be calling and folding way more often than shoving, but you are correct it is something you need to consider and think about.

Hey,

Thank you for answering