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Bigvee

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To me it feels somewhat similar to PLO.... With the pace of the game and, in theory, most people folding weak hands you figure to be against the nuts or near it a lot -------- or someone representing it.

I see raising/re-raising in position to be somewhat profitable, being out of position with a non-nut hand is a bad spot to be in. At least in PLO you have some reads here is basically gambol (also like PLO most times hehe).

I was up over a short session last night, but it was swingy - I can honestly say that an open + cbet won 80% of the pots I was in. Just having that work over the volume you can put down should be profitable.

Im not sure what is optimal here either.... nitting it up or maniac style, its probably somewhere in between. Without reads though maniac style is a bit of a gambol...

Oh and it looks like they used their tourney seating technology to do this.....

Posted about 2 years ago

1BYONE

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I did get it in with Andy Bloch though on a 78xhh board. I had QQJ9hh... He had minraised utg preflop with 4788ss, jerk. Probably only time I'll play a cash game with the guy.



"As of 2009, his total live tournament winnings exceed $4,200,000. His 23 cashes as the WSOP account for $2,068,042 of those winnings" Wikipedia

Once you have accomplished even half of what he did then MAYBE you can say he is a j**k Wink

Posted about 2 years ago

infire

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Nah, he's a jerk. Smile

jk, know next to nothing about the dude, but if I did the fact that he's won a lot more money than I have wouldn't stop me from calling him a jerk, if, again, that's what I thought he was. Wink

Posted about 2 years ago

McManigal

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Love it! I'm up 7 buy ins in 3 hours. I'm probably just running hot but I'd like to think there is a strategy to be found behind it.

What I like is fast forwarding to good hands or position. You can't read the players, but they can't read you either so it kind of cancels out and simplifies the game a little.

I don't go on boredom or card dead tilt and can make laydowns easier since I know I'm only minutes away from another descent hand.

It's more fun, more interactive, and I don't think I'll play slow poker any time soon.

Posted about 2 years ago

rvtsteve

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uhhhhh.....

don't

know

what to say...

I hope the emoticon means I'm being leveled.

Posted about 2 years ago

SixteenBlue

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rvtsteve

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infire

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vandweller

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Why does everyone lament that "all the fish will be sucked away"? GO FOLLOW THEM! Don't pigeon-hole yourself. "Oh, well I'm a 2/4NL 6max player and I'll never move, even if the fish play something different." Find profitable opportunities and exploit them. That's what being an advantage gambler is all about.

Obviously I just won 500bb in 2000 hands playing full ring about 16/11. :-)

Posted about 2 years ago

Bigvee

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Up a couple more BI now... I hit the odd slowplayed nuts... but on average a pretty easy game to beat so far.

Posted about 2 years ago

nawhead

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Tried this out. Absolutely love it. It's basically trying to play theoretically correct in a vacuum with no image. --> Anyone that goes back over their sessions and makes notes on the player pool is going to kill this game.



I played as follows:
Open close to 70% of hands if unopened to me from any position, open any 2 on btn, and 3bet about 30% of hands weighted toward Ax/Kx, any broadway, etc. Cbetting about 90% given proper stacks and boards that aren't horrid for my hand and their range. People are way too willing to just fold to the next hand. It worked very well. Small sample of course.



Yes, and yes!

Playing read-less like this really tests your basic game. Your opening ranges, cbet effectiveness, positional awareness, correct 3Bet frequencies and ranges, betting ranges on turn/rivr, ability to lay down losers postflop. Not tilting.

If your ABC's are solid, you should be able to play small pots (which includes 3-betting btn vs co and bb vs sb) all day and be a winner.

This format really makes me focus on just hand ranges instead of making bad metagame mistakes while misinterpreting history with another player. So I'm going to "train" with a blindfold on for awhile.

HEM says my positional awareness while playing this was 40. It's normally 3. LOL.

Also, you have to consider 6m like FR and try not to stack off deep with small sets and 2 pairs. Obviously better players will gain a bigger edge as they adjust to deeper stacks.

I played a session of 6m, but I'm going to play FR tomorrow since you get more hands and post less blinds and 6m is playing like FR anyway in this format.

Posted about 2 years ago

1BYONE

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This is sick... This Rush poker is very lucrative both at 50NL and 100NL !!! Gring Gring $$$ Wink What a good day

Posted about 2 years ago

McManigal

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Wow, thought my 7 BI's was a fluke, sat down for another half hour session before bed on one table and got another 2. My best day ever except for a tournament win.

This rush poker is the best thing since sliced bread. I just hope it's for real and I'm not just on a heater. Dear poker gods, please let this be some sick natural ability I have for a new game and not just a flash in the pan!

Posted about 2 years ago

infire

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Why does everyone lament that "all the fish will be sucked away"? GO FOLLOW THEM! Don't pigeon-hole yourself. "Oh, well I'm a 2/4NL 6max player and I'll never move, even if the fish play something different." Find profitable opportunities and exploit them. That's what being an advantage gambler is all about.

Obviously I just won 500bb in 2000 hands playing full ring about 16/11. :-)



There's a lot of validity in this. But at the same time, if you feel that your advantage is slowly being eliminated, then it's only natural to worry.

For my own part, I have no doubt that Rush is beatable at the moment, and probably will always be beatable to some degree. But I am concerned about the long-term profitability of the game for thinking players, once the dust has settled. Without reads, our most significant weapon versus the most beatable players -- the ones we have the biggest edge on -- is blunted, it seems to me. It also seems to simplify the game. (Not saying that it is simple, merely less complex.)

Anyway, since I'm not a pro it doesn't make me as worried as I am probably coming off as. And I'm just beginning to figure out the games that are prevalent now, so truth be told, some of my reactions to this development are likely the product of laziness and resistance to change. But that doesn't change the fact that I can't see a way that this won't eventually be a negative development for online poker, to some degree of significance. Perhaps I lack imagination. And perhaps the dust never settles.

Posted about 2 years ago

terryfan

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played for 2 days, roughly 8k hands in and up like 15 BIs...easiest money ever. I certainly love this idea. more hands per hour, more monsters in a short period of time, more fish. basically just play ABC poker and str8forward and you'll bank a lot of easy money.

I certainly do hope they have nl200 tho.

Posted about 2 years ago




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