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A moral question


sliverr

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Your sitting in a headsup game versus someone who is really bad and on obvious tilt.

You've stacked him for quite some money and when he rebuys it takes a long while. You realize he's buying in from his credit card right away and not his bankroll.

Do you quit him? Do you think its wrong too feel the right thing is to quit him? Do you keep playing him thinking its right to give him a chance to get his moneyback ( even though he never will )?

Posted over 1 year ago

Steppin Razor

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it's his responsibility to be responsible, not yours. White Men Can't Jump is a good movie for this lesson.

Posted over 1 year ago

jonwies

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You hope he has a really high credit limit...

Posted over 1 year ago

Guitierez

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lol ethics

quitting would be a disgrace

Posted over 1 year ago

CDA

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How do you know he can't afford it? Maybe he just didn't have that much on the site. I'd think a lot of rec players probably don't want to leave a few grand on a poker site. A credit card may just be the easiest way to reload.

Posted over 1 year ago

simonpoker

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You hope he has a really high credit limit...



pretty much this.

Posted over 1 year ago

SnappieVouz

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I see your problem and I have asked it myself a couple of times. You always get the same response. I think poker players really don't care at all what might happen to a family aslong as their bankroll keeps growing.

I think it's way to easy to say 'it's his responsibility to be responsible', and altough i agree with the statement I also see a different side where people are to addicted or to caught up in their emotions to be responsible.

I think it shows on a micro scale what is happening on macro skill in the world

Posted over 1 year ago

SupremeNinja

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It's immoral to let a sucker keep his money.

Posted over 1 year ago

Swi1ch

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If you don't take his money, someone will, or he'll stick it on a roulette wheel.

Posted over 1 year ago

Swaytje

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If you don't take his money, someone will, or he'll stick it on a roulette wheel.



This plus the chance that he really can't afford to loose more is really small... I would just keep playing him for as long as he wants.

Posted over 1 year ago

NinaWilliams

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i don't care if he can afford it or not. if someone wants to fuck up their life, its not my problem.

Posted over 1 year ago

Chazb0t

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The objective of this game is to take other people's money, how can you feel bad about it?

Do you think they feel bad when they win your money or suck out on you?

Everyone sits down with the knowledge that everyone is out to take their money and they are trying to do the same...

The fact that there are varying degrees of skill level is irrelevant... It is up to each individual to get better and the game.

Posted over 1 year ago

WiltOnTilt

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similar situation happened to me a while back. Here's the thread on it:

http://www.deucescracked.com/forums/4-General-Discussion/topics/7581-moral-quandry#posts-53446

I basically came to the conclusion that if your conscience is bothering you, then quitting is the right move for you.

Usually my conscience doesnt bother me unless I feel like they are hurting themselves or hurting their family, which you basically will never know, unless they tell you...which is what happened in my situation in the link above (of course he could have been lying).

Posted over 1 year ago

Chazb0t

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Now take the average American with their retirement money in the stock market.

They are investing with the goal of long-term growth and price appreciation.

Then you have brokers and financial advisors trying to take piece of their nest egg for themselves in the form of commissions, fees, management fees, etc...

Then you have institutional and individual traders who are trying to skim money off the top and take marginal trades, they trade huge volumes that move the market.

They short stocks further putting downward pressure on the market, yet they make money off of downward movements because when you short a stock you are borrowing someone else's shares(Mom and Pop/Joe Investor) because you think the stock is going to go down, you sell their shares(further downward pressure by making the stock price decrease), then when the stock is lower you buy it back from someone else at the lower price and give them their shares back at the lower price.

To me this is immoral and why I got out of the industry in the first place. They have no idea this is going on, they are just hoping they have money to live off of when they retire.

I hate the pressure of having to do the wrong thing to boost my company's bottom line and profits. Being at the bottom of the sales ranking each month because I did the right thing, which was more often than not to do nothing. Rather than cramming things down people's throats who don't need or want them, or selling all of their retirement account and re-buying other investments under the guise of asset allocation...

Poker is a pure and honest game, despite the fact that dishonesty and bluffing is built into the game. Everyone sits down knowing full well everyone else's intentions...

/Rant over

Posted over 1 year ago

CDA

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I think poker players really don't care at all what might happen to a family aslong as their bankroll keeps growing.




Really? Harsh..

Posted over 1 year ago




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