cam167
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Hey guys i'm moving to a new site (bestpoker (ongame)) where they only have 5max or FR, i'm used to playing 6max. So my question is: are there any difference in playing 6max compared to 5max? If so wich ones?
BTW it's at the micros if at makes any difference.
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I haven't played on ongame, but I find the 5max tables on FT (the ones that have a reserved (empty) seat, to generally have more action than a lot of 6 max tables. IMO, a lot of players think they have to play differently and usually way over-adjust, which makes for a juicer game.
Just pretend you're on a 6max table and UTG folded. 
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delcrossb
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play exactly the same except your opening ranges for UTG are now MP.
Just pretend you're on a 6max table and UTG folded. 
I tend to think the second approach is more valid, although if anything I would recommend opening SLIGHTLY looser in a 5 handed game than I would in a 6 handed game. Your average cost per hand is higher so you want to be more involved and stealing more blinds. Similarly you can feasibly make your MP1 range (4th position) tighter in a 9 handed game than your UTG range (1st position) in a 6 handed game, because your average cost per hand is lower.
With that in mind, blind defense becomes a little more important. Not a ton, but enough that if you put your brain to it you can find spots to squeeze out extra EV.
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On one hand the positions are the same except UTG is removed, like in full ring vs six max, that's the main thing. In full ring people play tighter overall(not talking about positions) than six max for some reason, this will very slightly apply to 5max vs 6max. I'm not too concerned about that though, just drop your 6max UTG range since they don't have that in six max.
6max should change to 5max, become deep, and have antes. This would give it more action! Good luck, Yojimgari
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Ongame has some crazy euros that's for sure. Seems to me they take most things personally and there's a lot of table dynamics compared with stars/ft where you might have have the table that just sees a blur of names and numbers on 18 tables.
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Ongame has some crazy euros that's for sure. Seems to me they take most things personally and there's a lot of table dynamics compared with stars/ft where you might have have the table that just sees a blur of names and numbers on 18 tables.
I've been thinking the exact same thing since moving there!
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Ongame has some crazy euros that's for sure. Seems to me they take most things personally and there's a lot of table dynamics compared with stars/ft where you might have have the table that just sees a blur of names and numbers on 18 tables.
Yeah, it's a hole other ball park, compared to purple lounge (prima/microgamming) even though it's also an euro site. People play way looser, and over shove all the time, I defenetly have to get used to it. Maybe four can give me some pointers 
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Since I've been there, calling a 4 bet with KK/QQ I've ran into AA 8/8.
Intrestingly, I've called a 4 bet 4 times with AA and they had KK 3/4 times...
You don't want advise off me mate, I believe online poker is rigged and in my sad delusinal way, I believe you just have to play the site and adjust to each network's rng.
+9.92bb/100 after 58,642 hands so far but still deluded about the rng's
Sounded Simple would give you better advise than me.
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Since I've been there, calling a 4 bet with KK/QQ I've ran into AA 8/8.
Intrestingly, I've called a 4 bet 4 times with AA and they had KK 3/4 times...
You don't want advise off me mate, I believe online poker is rigged and in my sad delusinal way, I believe you just have to play the site and adjust to each network's rng.
+9.92bb/100 after 58,642 hands so far but still deluded about the rng's
Sounded Simple would give you better advise than me.
yeah I know, read the hole battle between you and langers..
But if you think it's rigged why do you even play? why not play live instead?
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yeah I know, read the hole battle between you and langers..
But if you think it's rigged why do you even play? why not play live instead?
Because I am under the delusional impression I adjust, it isn't rigged vs anyone in particular, it is just juiced up a bit. Learn to make a few folds in certain spots and make the most of when you're on the good side of it and you can win.
I wouldn't play if I didn't make money 
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Because I am under the delusional impression I adjust, it isn't rigged vs anyone in particular, it is just juiced up a bit. Learn to make a few folds in certain spots and make the most of when you're on the good side of it and you can win.
I wouldn't play if I didn't make money 
I guess when/if things get regulated we'll have a chance to see if you're right.
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I believe online poker is rigged and in my sad delusinal way, I believe you just have to play the site and adjust to each network's rng.
it isn't rigged vs anyone in particular, it is just juiced up a bit. Learn to make a few folds in certain spots and make the most of when you're on the good side of it and you can win.
One of the good things is that there will never be videos about how to adjust to each network's rng. Those training sites have made the games much tougher. A good player isn't advantaged by those videos because he is able to beat the games without videos. The training sites reduce from the edge of a good player.
I have accounts at the majority of poker networks and when I run bad at a site I simply refuse to play there and I start to play at another site. I never had in the last months downswings bigger than 10 buy ins(but I had upswings bigger than 10 buy-ins) and I had a positive win rate at NL100, NL200 and NL400. Not because I'm better than my opponents (in fact I think the opposite is true) but because I knew to exploit the RNG better than them.
The most important thing is to avoid big downswings. When you feel you lose no matter what you do leave the site and play at another one. When you feel you win no matter what you do play looser and don't stop playing. Play many many hours.
I even think a "rigged" RNG is better than a normal one (if you know how to adjust to it). I never had a downswing bigger than 10BI online but live (where the RNG is clearly not rigged) I had downswings bigger than that.
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