nawhead
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HOWEVER, it did not live up to the hype (for me) of being 'the best movie ever made' which I've heard a lot. It gave me expectations of watching the greatest piece of film evar. I wish this notion was never in my head.
i wish i hadn't had this in mind either before watching it. it's a great film, no doubt, and it has this super wide appeal because Nolan never relies on overt violence or sexuality in his movies. but at the same time, never going there you have to emotionally pull something back. and the best movies for me take me to the extremes of emotions. when younger, i thought movies like The Matrix or Memento would be the best movies ever for me. nowadays, i think those movies are cool, but life changing? something you remember on your deathbed? something to base a life philosophy upon? no. a movie like The Thin Red Line or Schindler's List or even Blade Runner is a far greater movie in those terms. further, Deception is certainly below other wide appeal films like A Wonderful Life.
Nolan is like Shyamalan in that all his own creations consist of playing on a mind trick. tricks are certainly eye-popping when you watch it, and you want everybody else to know how amazed you were, but with time, you realize it was just a trick and nothing more.
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******* SPOILERS! ********
First off, I thought this movie was GOOD. It was a solid flick.
Nolan + Leo + Gordon-Levitt + Watanabe + Page = Win
HOWEVER, it did not live up to the hype (for me) of being 'the best movie ever made' which I've heard a lot. It gave me expectations of watching the greatest piece of film evar. I wish this notion was never in my head.
http://halphillips.tumblr.com/post/822919795/inception
One of the best analysis I've read so far.
that has to be the best write-up interpretation i've seen extrapolated from just about any movie. i might actually be interested in seeing it again just to view it through that lens.
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CF23
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saw it last night. when the movie was over, i was surprised that it had such a happy ending. none of the characters dies. nobody trapped in limbo. Cobb getting back with his kids. Fin.
so i thought, wow they solved it all, this doesn't leave me with any kind of confusedness that i had when i watched matrix, memento, donnie darko, fight club. i was expecting inception to be more like them.
but i felt they really spoon fed it to the audience.
that was my thinking last night. now i've read this thread and another one, and a few posts on IMDB and apparently i he was dreaming from the point on when they go to the chemist guy's cellar. hmm. ok that's possible. but it doesn't really change anything.
the films i stated above left a TON to interpretation, inception was pretty solved.
amazing movie of course. just thought it'd leave me more puzzled at the end.
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nawhead
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http://halphillips.tumblr.com/post/822919795/inception
One of the best analysis I've read so far.
reads like one of those literary analyses that make the original work's author go, "Oh, is that what I was doing? I had no idea!"
or, in poker parlance, that guy is seeing monsters under the bed.
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what was unsolved about the matrix or memento? well i guess memento you can argue that he doesnt know if his wife is actually dead or not, but i wouldnt consider that unsolved. it wasnt the point of the movie at all, and it was only brought to our attention in like the last 15min.
thats like saying star trek is unsolved because we dont know how the klingons came to be or something.
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I have not seen a great movie like that for ages actually. Franlky congrats to the dude who creates the story you need to be either a freak or a genius for a story line like this one
Great entertainment. Marion Cotillard was delicious as usual.
I remember those funny sentences:
What was that? Oh that was the (avalanche) kick !
Do you want to be stuck in a dream for 10 years? Well it depends on the dream !
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SupremeNinja
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what was unsolved about the matrix or memento? well i guess memento you can argue that he doesnt know if his wife is actually dead or not, but i wouldnt consider that unsolved. it wasnt the point of the movie at all, and it was only brought to our attention in like the last 15min.
thats like saying star trek is unsolved because we dont know how the klingons came to be or something.
I don't think 'unsolved' is the right word. Memento ended with alot of interpretations, very similar to Inception. I haven't seen Memento in a long time and don't really remember it in detail, but there are a number of interpretations on who the characters are, what their motives were, and reasons why things happened.. Even though the outcome was pretty much 'solved'.
+1 on the Hardy casting
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My take was that it the entire movie was a dream. I'd have to see it again to get everything straight in my head and look at specific examples. Some moments that resonated and give me that impression:
-When were are just thrust into the middle of everything and we later hear that "you can't remember how a dream began or how you got here."
-Visiting the drug addicted dreamers and how they never want to wake up. How the dream world is better than the real one for them. How Cobb is the expert on all of this.
-Ellen Paige character's quote about "it's pure creation" when she is creating the dream for the first time. To me the words might as well be right out of Nolan's mouth. At first I thought the whole being able to create anything in dreams was a bit of a cop out. He can just do anything and doesn't have to explain it. Let's say I'm making a movie and I want my character to go to Japan. I have to have a reason for him being there, there has to be a story driving that. Here it can be *poof* he's in Japan.
Looking back though, it isn't a cop out, it's actually a little scary. He can create ANYTHING in the dream sequences with no real rules or boundaries to hold him back. The bar has to be really high for that type of freedom. It's sort of how you could approach film making. You have a blank sheet and can create anything, There is a whole movie making/dream creation parallel that can be discussed forever.
The fact is this movie took some huge balls to make. It tries to be an intelligent blockbuster and I think it did a pretty damn good job. The score was amazing, the set design was jaw dropping. My only complaint was the character development was a little weak. I didn't really care for them that much. Also, the actors weren't given a really good chance to act. Some of their roles felt so limited.
All that said, it's really amazing. Me and some friends discussed the entire movie on the ride home and for a good hour or so afterward. Some of these people not being the type that really want to have in depth movie discussion and that was really cool to see.
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