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I think this book will be the missing link a lot of aspiring poker pros like myself need to help turn their knowledge into money, lots of money

I could have told you for free, how to pee in a bottle

I obv. don't know him in person, but I really hate his super whiny blogs. As if he is the most unlucky person on the planet. Admire his grinding ability though and believe he could be a really nice person IRL, who knows..

I'll preface my post saying I have never had one interaction with Dusty, and have no personal feelings towards him whatsoever, aside from knowing that xtranormal has pwned him as evidenced in this thread

I have a big problem with his stated "life strategy" which is loosely based around the idea that poker is a game where all you have to do is dedicate yourself and play a whole lot more than other people, and you will make more money. I suppose it boils down to personal goals. If someone's goal in poker is "I want to make the most amount of money, period", then there are a deceptively large amount of paths that person could take.

Some go the grinder path - but take a look at the typical SNE players' results. For every leatherass, who is soundly beating the games and getting the SNE benefits, there must be 15 guys who are losing over 1 bb/100, and making maybe 20-50k a year with the benefits after figuring for their lossrate. They play enough hands where if that -1 bb/100 was +1 bb/100, they would be making great money, but its not exactly easy to bridge that gap. Everyone just thinks "oh well if I just get a little better, improve that winrate while maintaining the # of hands/hr I get now, I'll be rich!". If that's so easy how come we don't see more of it? Maybe -1 bb/100 is all that's achievable for most people playing that many hands. I know I could never do it.

There are also plenty of other paths towards "winning the most money at poker" - anyone want to tell any of the guys playing 100/200+ (or say 25/50+ NL) that they should have just grinded out the hands and they would have plenty of money by now. Those guys are laughing all the way to the Bentley dealership. There is no single reason someone goes from small stakes to high stakes, none of those guys were pre-determined to be special and awarded high stakes rich lives, anyone can get there. I firmly believe there is just as good a chance of becoming an elite player, as there is of training yourself to play millions upon millions of hands at a positive winrate. It also sounds way more fun to me, but that diverges into an argument about something other than "how to make the most money from poker". Let's talk about that next...

If you want to simply say "I want to make the most money possible at poker", why not just drop off the last two words and find another area to hustle money. I am not sure poker is the easiest place in the world to make a lot of money, especially if your skill is just in your ability to repeatedly do things for 100+ hours a week without doing them significantly worse than before. Maybe it is, I really don't know. All I'm saying is the art of making money by hustling isn't really a poker-specific thing.

Personally, I play poker for a large variety of reasons: strategic fun, competitiveness, money, laziness, enjoyment of gambling, probably more I can't think of now. If I ever tried to play poker strictly to "make the most money possible" I'd fail for sure. I'd resent it, I wouldn't have any fun, I'd play much worse. I suspect for anyone else that isn't singularly focused on making money, that's true for you too.

Dustys skill set is difference and comes from grinding sometimes up to 400hours a month, thats dedication like nothing else!

Sure, he might have a style which doesnt get people excited, but I'd sure be excited about winning $3million from nothing in under 5 years!

Uh huh. And if somehow my workplace allowed me to work 10x the hours I work now with overtime pay, I'd be well past that point too.

I don't get it?

If you can learn just 1 tactic/strategy from this book.. and it only increases your winrate by 0.1bb/100 surely it's worth it!?

This book is definitely going to be worth $40. Chris makes some good points but it's only $40 and based on the chapter descriptions/Dusty's success (yah he's not the best or the coolest person but he plays and wins over a huge sample size), it's going to be way better and more relevant than most other poker books out there (plus it'll have a lot of content you can't really find anywhere).

Would love to read a review or two though!