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3bet pot OOP, raised on the flop

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roba59

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Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1864042
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BTN: $594.71
Hero (SB): $102.55
BB: $93.00
UTG: $112.06
MP: $126.43
CO: $101.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with A Diamond J Club
1 fold, MP raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10, 1 fold, MP calls $7

Flop: ($21.00) 9 Club 4 Spade A Heart (2 players)
Hero bets $11, MP raises to $24, Hero ???


Villain like to call 3bets.
I know that if I call he won't bluff on turn. My gues is that his range here is complete bluff, or AQ.

Is it better to ship here or call and fold on turn to aggresion, and if turn goes check check, call a river bet? I think that he might bluff sometimes but I'm not sure how offten.

Posted 9 months ago

blah234

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Based on your reads seems like calling and fold on the turn facing a bet is clearly the best play. Now think about how did you develop this read and how much weight you should put on this read.

Posted 9 months ago

achabra12

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I find average/bad 100NL regs often have weak ranges when they raise an ace-high dry board like this IP in a 3-bet pot. If villain has AQ+, he will rarely fastplay as there is no need; stacks can easily get it AI by the river even if you stop betting, and by not raising with his strong hands he gives you a chance to barrel with your bluffs. So unless you're known to spaz out to flop raises or something, there's no reason for villain to play a value hand like this.

With a hand like AJ on this board I'd usually just call the flop raise and x/c down. Betting or raising at any point after his flop raise will not get worse to call or better to fold, so this is a good way to keep all his bluffs in. It's not like we have any draws to protect against.

However, since you have specific reads on your opponent, I think that might supersede what I wrote above. Just curious how you came up with those reads and whether you think you have enough history with him to really trust those reads.

Also, depending on villain's MP opening range and his playback to 3-bet frequencies I think 3-betting pre could be a mistake.

Posted 9 months ago

StackHunter

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this is a good way to keep all his bluffs in



When one player c-bets in 3bp an A-high board, gets raised and calls OOP - does it look to be an OOP float? Imo it clearly looks like the original c-bettor has a good made hand, so Villain has to be really retarded to keep bluffing that range.
So basically by calling you can rep only mid and high value.

However, by clicking it back, you can rep a bluff and as a result induce a spazz. Given the fact it's unlikely for the Villain to play a better Ax this way, this is usually a set or nothing. Villain likes to call 3b = his range must be wide. Therefore:

bluff induction from a wide range > bluff catching

Posted 9 months ago

7GramRocks

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However, by clicking it back, you can rep a bluff and as a result induce a spazz. Given the fact it's unlikely for the Villain to play a better Ax this way, this is usually a set or nothing. Villain likes to call 3b = his range must be wide. Therefore:

bluff induction from a wide range > bluff catching



another thing i sometimes do here is, call the flop, and after the turn goes x/x, 1/4 pot size bet the river. I get bluff jammed on alot here by overly aggro players. Many times, ppl who bluff on the flop here end up being overly-aggro.

Posted 9 months ago




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