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Allermand_DK

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Poker Stars $100 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1848997
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SB: $100.00 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 16, 3B: 17, AF: 1.0, Hands: 32
BB: $50.00 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 1
UTG: $100.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 15, 3B: 2, AF: 4.8, Hands: 135
Hero (MP): $109.50 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 8, AF: 5.3, Hands: 33589
CO: $101.50 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 0.0, Hands: 94
BTN: $100.00 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 6

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with A Heart K Heart
UTG raises to $4, Hero calls $4, 2 folds, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($13.00) 7 Club 6 Diamond 5 Heart (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $12.40, Hero raises to $42, SB folds, UTG calls $29.60

Turn: ($97.00) 3 Spade (2 players)
UTG checks

Hero??

We are unknown to eachother and Villian seems like a TAG: http://screenshooter.net/4567710/apnxphl

Preflop'
Imo flatting is highest EV, because it's hard to get called by worse if I raise.


Flop
I raise with my backdoor NFD and two OC my plan was to b/f and to shove most turns if checked to. Maybe flaoting the flop is better, because would I really raise KK+ and sets on this board?(in Vil's eyes) I also keep the pot smaller and therefore more advantage of being IP.


Turn
It's checked to me, but I got gunshy and changed my plan and tried to get to showdown and took a free card, checking behind, imo I should have stucked to my original plan here and shipped, because I think actually Vil would have folded enough to make the bluff +EV, he only needs to fold 33% and I block AA and KK's

- Vil leads shoves into me OTR, I folded, because I only beat a bluff, very not optimal played hand by me imo.

Comments on all streets appriciated thx..

Posted 10 months ago

blah234

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Preflop'
Imo flatting is highest EV, because it's hard to get called by worse if I raise.



You're not 3betting enough. What's wrong with villain folding? Do you make average of 550bb/100 with AKs?


Flop
I raise with my backdoor NFD and two OC my plan was to b/f and to shove most turns if checked to. Maybe flaoting the flop is better, because would I really raise KK+ and sets on this board?(in Vil's eyes) I also keep the pot smaller and therefore more advantage of being IP.



Do you really want to float with a player behind to act?


Turn
It's checked to me, but I got gunshy and changed my plan and tried to get to showdown and took a free card, checking behind, imo I should have stucked to my original plan here and shipped, because I think actually Vil would have folded enough to make the bluff +EV, he only needs to fold 33% and I block AA and KK's



What's villain's range for calling your raise? Blocking AA KK means nothing, you block all of 6 combos from his range which has little affect on EV.

Posted 10 months ago

h8p5s

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i do not like your raise size, but now i would never shove cause no way someone calls basically half their stack on the flop and folds to this turn. 3 way pot i just fold, people hate folding. and you are really only repping a set.

imo 3bet pre is better than calling unless you have some squeeze monkeys behind but even they do not often squeeze light vs utg open and utg+1 flat.

If for whatever rare reason we flat here with AA pre, do you raise this flop? thoughts

Also, not to hijack but is it ok to basically not have a raising raises here at all?

Posted 10 months ago

kReATivE

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Would folding this flop be too weak? I agree with blah that floating isn't really an option with SB still left to act, but UTG is cbetting BIG into 2 players so I would think that he is very strong here. As h8p5s said, your sizing is also pretty bad as it just hurts your SPR/ability to play the turn when called.

Posted 10 months ago

Majkel

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Villain pot cbetting this dangerous flop and having a player behind is enough for me to abandon wholeheartedly the idea of raising.

Posted 10 months ago

Allermand_DK

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You're not 3betting enough. What's wrong with villain folding? Do you make average of 550bb/100 with AKs?



Nothing wrong with Villian folding, I was just thinking about which play was the highest EV?, don't you think A9-AJ and 22-88 probaably will fold to a 3b? A9-AJ I probably can get at least one street of value, when an Ace comes OTF. And 22--88 I think will bluff at least once if the flop comes with a K or an Ace.


Do you really want to float with a player behind to act?


No, I will always raise to get HU IP?


What's villain's range for calling your raise? Blocking AA KK means nothing, you block all of 6 combos from his range which has little affect on EV.



I think it's something like; 55+ which I only have 12% equity vs.

Board: 7c 6d 5h 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 87.834% 84.09% 03.74% 1887 84.00 { AcAd, AcAs, AdAs, KcKd, KcKs, KdKs, QQ-88, 7d7h, 7d7s, 7h7s, 6c6h, 6c6s, 6h6s, 5c5d, 5c5s, 5d5s, 44 }
Hand 1: 12.166% 08.42% 03.74% 189 84.00 { AhKh }

So raise flop and fold faicng futher betting?

Posted 10 months ago

improva

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Preflop: I don't mind flatting if you don't have a 3bet range vs this player.

Flop: Use villain's bet sizing tell to befriend the fold button.

Posted 10 months ago

NoWayFolding

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You're not 3betting enough. What's wrong with villain folding? Do you make average of 550bb/100 with AKs?
.



+1
This says a lot.........

Posted 10 months ago




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