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YugiohPro

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This seems fine to me but wanted some thoughts I suppose.

Operating in a vacuum again, about 20 hands into a Zoom session. I'm not sure about the turn bet. I guess I'm trying to fold out A high if he's weak/tight or something and allow myself at least the option of doing something on the river.

Once the J hits it's like one of the only cards I can value bet so I thought it would be criminal not to shove for value once I bet turn.

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1840714
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Hero (BTN): $144.26
SB: $144.16
BB: $100.00
UTG: $279.40
MP: $73.90
CO: $219.44

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with Q Heart T Heart
3 folds, Hero raises to $2.15, 1 fold, BB raises to $8, Hero calls $5.85

Flop: ($16.50) 9 Club 9 Heart K Spade (2 players)
BB bets $10, Hero calls $10

Turn: ($36.50) K Club (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $16, BB calls $16

River: ($68.50) J Club (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $110.26 all in

Posted 10 months ago

Adriano85

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What do you mean by not too thin? The only hand that is going to call is Kx. There is absolutely no value here IMO. Villain never has a flush here and we don't need to bluff QQ/AA. I don't see why we should shove here. Please tell me if I'm wrong.

Posted 10 months ago

MaskedManQc

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What do you mean by not too thin? The only hand that is going to call is Kx. There is absolutely no value here IMO. Villain never has a flush here and we don't need to bluff QQ/AA. I don't see why we should shove here. Please tell me if I'm wrong.



Exactly this!
What worse hand will call?

Posted 10 months ago

NoWayFolding

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Turn bet is to get to fold Ax? Dont like.

River is to get Ax to call?? You see how your logic is flawed.

Posted 10 months ago

Crackmonkey

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What range of hands do you expect to call you on the river?

Do you beat 50% of that range?

We're totally readless here, so I would assume by default that villain is not capable of calling the river shove with QQ or TT ( plus you block both of those ), thinking you are completely polarized to Kx or some A high hand. I would also assume that since villain has no reads on you, he will assume by default that when you overbet shove the river that you are doing it for value almost 100% of the time.

If you're going to value bet, I'd bet like $10 and hope to get looked up by A high or 2 pair.

Posted 10 months ago

terp

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on neither the turn nor the river are you thinking at all about an entire range

Posted 10 months ago

DerBrain

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I´d just check back the turn and expect to have the best hand a decent amount of the time. He is probably not going to c/f Ax, TT, JJ or QQ that often and we are beating pretty much everything else.
As played, I dont like your river jam. You arent getting called by worse often enough to justify the play. I dont mind a really small river bet that is getting called by all of his Ax type holdings but if you shove, he will never show up with worse.

Posted 10 months ago




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