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Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $309.30 (309.3 bb)
SB: $187.55 (187.6 bb)
BB: $159.32 (159.3 bb)
UTG: $631.82 (631.8 bb)
MP: $102.25 (102.3 bb)
Hero (CO): $148.37 (148.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6 6
UTG raises to $2.50, MP folds, Hero calls $2.50, BTN folds, SB calls $2, BB folds

Flop: ($8.50) 6 T 4 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $6, SB calls $6, UTG folds

Turn: ($20.50) J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $16.50, SB raises to $33, [color="red"]Hero ?? ($123 effective)

Villain is completely unknown (6 hands)

JJ certainly possible, 44 and TT too even though we can assume he would x/r at least some of them ont he flop. I will put only 2 combos of TT and 44 in my calcs.
JTs, 9h8h, 9c8c are also possible.

I think his range is pretty narrow here. He would probably x/r his heart FD on the flop rather than on the turn.

Is the best play a call here and call a non club,7 or Q river?
If I shove and he only folds JT and call with the rest I have 38% equity which gives an EV of $ -27.
A fold as I have 48% equity vs JJ,66,TdTs,TdTc,4d4s,4d4c,JTs,9h8h,9c8c on the flop (can we assume he will have some bluffs?)

Villain is never minraising/folding JT so I would give him something like JJ,TT,44 and JT. I wouldn't add bluffs to his range since it's very very unlikely imo.

Board: 6c Th 4h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 83.864% 83.86% 00.00% 59778 0.00 { 66 }
Hand 1: 16.136% 16.14% 00.00% 11502 0.00 { JJ-TT, 44, JTs, JTo }

Looks like a shove to me. Even if we assume he is not always calling a shove with JT we can also assume he would squeeze JJ pre and therefore JJ is less likely. I know calling JTo from the SB is bad but since villain is unknown I think we should add it to his range.

Yeah fair enough if he raise JTs he prob call a shove with it.
But I don't think he calls pre with JTo and JJ vs UTG open is not necesseraly a sqz I think.

But if he calls a shove w JTs then I guess a shove is the answer as I have 48% equity vs JJ-TT,44,JTs,9h8h,9c8c

Yeah fair enough if he raise JTs he prob call a shove with it.
But I don't think he calls pre with JTo and JJ vs UTG open is not necesseraly a sqz I think.

But if he calls a shove w JTs then I guess a shove is the answer as I have 48% equity vs JJ-TT,44,JTs,9h8h,9c8c

JJ could sqz pre, not 100% of the time so it's in his range but not all combos I guess. since it's an unknown he could also have some combos of JTo in his range. I don't think villain is minraising with the 98 combos unless he is really bad. And if he has those in his range we don't get value on the river when he misses so I would shove.

I would shove here vs an unknown, as you don't know how villain is going play certain rivers. Check minraise turn is almost never a bluff , so happy to stick it in here. Besides, you may loose value if a bad river comes.

Villain is never minraising/folding JT so I would give him something like JJ,TT,44 and JT. I wouldn't add bluffs to his range since it's very very unlikely imo.

Board: 6c Th 4h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 83.864% 83.86% 00.00% 59778 0.00 { 66 }
Hand 1: 16.136% 16.14% 00.00% 11502 0.00 { JJ-TT, 44, JTs, JTo }

Looks like a shove to me. Even if we assume he is not always calling a shove with JT we can also assume he would squeeze JJ pre and therefore JJ is less likely. I know calling JTo from the SB is bad but since villain is unknown I think we should add it to his range.

Think his range is a lot wider than that, I would jam and expect to be good enough of the time.

Also you didn't include turn card in your stove.

Think his range is a lot wider than that, I would jam and expect to be good enough of the time.

Also you didn't include turn card in your stove.

Yeah youre right. Stupid!

Board: 6c Th 4h Jc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 62.500% 62.50% 00.00% 1485 0.00 { 66 }
Hand 1: 37.500% 37.50% 00.00% 891 0.00 { JJ-TT, 44, JTs, JTo }


This is a minraise so I would not assign a wide range to villain.

I don't think we can fold vs an unknown. He could be a random that play AA like its the nuts. Shoving seems the best option as we will get value from top 2 pairs and some strong draws and maybe bottom set.

Nobody mentionned it in the ranges but he could have AJ, KJ or QJ that could take this exact same line.

Yeah but he must be really bad to minraise with those combo draws.

Yeah but he must be really bad to minraise with those combo draws.

True, but so far, can we assume he is competent?

When we deal with some unknown data, we can just try to weight it and let's say, include only A:J

I didn't include any heart draw because I would expect villain to x/r them on the flop rather than on the turn.
And I think this is a fair assumption but we could weight it indeed and add AhJh

even if someone is unknown, try to make a read based on any available info: stack size, name, # of tables played, action in hand.

c/mr this turn deepish is pretty bad. i'd start from there and assume that we can pretty happily 3bet this turn.

even if someone is unknown, try to make a read based on any available info: stack size, name, # of tables played, action in hand.

c/mr this turn deepish is pretty bad. i'd start from there and assume that we can pretty happily 3bet this turn.

pretty much this.

Given the board texture. C/mr is fucking awful.

Id be pretty happy getting the chips in the middle here.

I shoved and got called by TT.

Can I assume that his x/c, x/minR range is very strong yet or do I need more reads?
i.e If I have to play this hand again vs him would you still get it in in the turn?

Another read is that he doesn't x/r his sets on 2 tone boards so when he does he prob has a FD.

Thanks

I shoved and got called by TT.

Can I assume that his x/c, x/minR range is very strong yet or do I need more reads?
i.e If I have to play this hand again vs him would you still get it in in the turn?

Another read is that he doesn't x/r his sets on 2 tone boards so when he does he prob has a FD.

Thanks

well, don't shove. shoving might let him fold something he had been pretty happy with until that moment.

yes, his c/mr range is very strong. it's very strong in his eyes.

Board: 6c Th 4h Jc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 62.500% 62.50% 00.00% 495 0.00 { 6d6s }
Hand 1: 37.500% 37.50% 00.00% 297 0.00 { JJ-TT, 44, JTs, JTo }

that's before we even throw in the idiot stuff and that's giving him credit for 100% of better hands