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Dublimax

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Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $255.05 (255.1 bb)
Hero (SB): $234.03 (234 bb)
BB: $207.17 (207.2 bb)
UTG: $100 (100 bb)
MP: $67.71 (67.7 bb)
CO: $252.33 (252.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with xx
2 folds, CO raises to $2.50, BTN folds, Hero raises to $11, BB folds, CO raises to $23, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($47) JClub QHeart 2Spade (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $30, Hero calls $30

Turn: ($107) 2Diamond (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $52, Hero calls $52

River: ($211) 5Club (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $147.33 and is all-in, Hero calls

Villain is playing 36/25, WTSD:33, he opens 35% in CO over 300 hands. He defends quite a lot vs resteal.
I see him as fishy reg but he often has huge stacks on zoom so I am not sure.

He went out of line twice vs me:
3B/5B 95ss bb vs sb for 100bb
flat w 32ss CO vs MP and 3 way raise my CBet on K72dd and then gu on 7,7


100 bb deep I would 3B 22-55, 99+, AQ+, KQ.

240 bb deep I would 3B 99+, AQ+ for value.
Versus a 4B I think I would flat 99-QQ, AK, fold AQ and 5B KK+. I expect some decent amount of 4B from him.

How is my preflop range construction vs him?

Should I open up my value 3B range as I expect villain to flat more (rightly so as we are deep)
Should I tighten up my value 3B range as I want to have a stronger range being OOP deep. In which case I flat more.
i.e should I keep 3B KQ for value and maybe add AJ, KJ?

Should I flat his 4B with KK+? Am I happy to go broke w KK that deep?


I guess post flop is pretty straight forward on this board:
Flop: I would x/f AK and 99, TT and basically continue only w JJ and QQ on this flop with which I am going to x/c 3 streets.

Thanks

Posted 10 months ago

terp

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hey max

if you expect to get 4bet quite a bit, you should probably not 3b hands like 99 a ton and you should probably not fold AQ to a 4bet. in addition, you can probably look to 5bet a slightly wider range or you're going to get owned pretty badly the times you 5bet with so much behind and getting flatted quite often.

on the flop, you should have a few more hands you can c/c: ATs, AK, KTs, some Qx holdings, etc. without these, you should (in theory) never induce any kind of 3barrel. c/c QQ/JJ is quite standard here, but it will also allow you to c/c a few weaker holdings.

the issue with c/c QQ/JJ + not c/c AK + not having many one pair hands in your range is the same as 5b a very tight range here preflop: you're turning your range face up very early in the hand with a lot behind. this may not matter, since plenty of ppl are spewboxes, but it's important to think about when you are pretty deep and OOP v a competent player.

Posted 10 months ago

Dublimax

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I agree with what you are saying in terms of having a wider range not to be face up ( whether it is my 5B pre range or my flop x/c range). It rises some questions though:

1) what is my plan OTT if I x/c ATs, AK, KTs, Qx on the flop? x/f 80% of turns? Or you expect him to be honest OTT and can safely x/f those if you miss?

2) To have such hands on the flop, it means that you 3B very wide. Are you going for a super wide value 3B range pre flop, because you expect him to defend a ton, eventhough we are deep OOP?
Can you give me an idea of your 3B range (and 5B range) vs this specific opponent?

Thanks

Posted 10 months ago

terp

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just as you have a wide opening range so that you can have a non-face up river range (among other reasons), you should 3bet some more holdings if you plan to have a 5b range. you could decline to have a 5b range and strengthen your 4b flatting range, and so on.

similarly, it's good to construct a flop range here that can deal with some different turn card. the hands you named (gutshots + OESDs, Qx) aren't going to fold the turn 80% of the time. they'll turn pairs sometimes, he'll give up others and so on.

Posted 10 months ago




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