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This hand was rather strange, and I'm wondering what notes you would take on the villain, as well as what notes you would take on me if you saw this hand or was the villain.

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 1835666
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Hero (BTN): $100.00
SB: $99.00
BB: $40.00
CO: $105.20

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with 6 6
1 fold, Hero raises to $2.50, SB calls $2, 1 fold

Flop: ($6.00) 7 8 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.78, SB raises to $10, Hero calls $6.22

Turn: ($26.00) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $14, Hero calls $14

River: ($54.00) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $73.50 all in, SB calls $72.50 all in

Final Pot: $199.00
Hero shows 6 6 (a full house, Sixes full of Eights)
SB mucks 9 9
Hero wins $197.50
(Rake: $1.50)

Villain is 25/18 over 240 hands, plays multiple tables, not super aggro, but he did 3b/5b shove with A6o when it was 3 handed, so he def is capable of putting money behind bluff.

He obv owned me on the flop and turn, but I'm really not sure if he was intentionally value betting or not.

I called because it's really hard for him to have hit this flop, i figured there's more XhXh, and maybe 9Ts in his range, and maybe pure bluffs, than 8x or 77. I expected him to give up a fair amount of time after the turn.

When he checked the river he def doesn't have a boat, and I think he would probably bet a flush for value too, since a lot of 8x and 9T are in my range (I open 65% on the btn).

So I decided to jam to polarize my range, and maybe get snapped off by a straight or the rare A8s, but I never expected him to call me with 99.

So what notes and/or adjustments would you make to this villain? is he just a fish?

perhaps he had just read the chapter about good river bluff cards from How to win at SSNL from Ed Miller, assumed that you had read it as well and therefore decided to look you up...

seriously though, he probably had a read of some sorts that your bluffing frequency is high enough to justify a call. From your description he does not seem to be a total fish. Perhaps you should look into your hand history to see how he reacts to river bets where the flush does not complete.

Without any further reads it seems to be a good idea to just good idea to overbet more often with a hand if he levels himself into calling with bluff catchers. at least until he adjusts.

Your flop call is really bad imo. You do really bad vs a reasonable c/r range in general.
It looks likes he is a fish yeah, c/r 99 on this board where his valuerange is really narrow, c/c a massive riverbet with a hand that can never win.

Your flop call is really bad imo. You do really bad vs a reasonable c/r range in general.
It looks likes he is a fish yeah, c/r 99 on this board where his valuerange is really narrow, c/c a massive riverbet with a hand that can never win.

Yeah you're probably right about the call. I find it hard to fold when there's so many bluffs in someones range but 66 is doing bad by the river.

Yeah you're probably right about the call. I find it hard to fold when there's so many bluffs in someones range but 66 is doing bad by the river.

I understand you have less time at the table and you are more inclined to call but you have better hands in your range to bet/call with then 66. Figure out your opening range, and then all possible hands you would cbet, and see what hands you can call a c/r with. This hand just has 0 equity when you're behind.

Um...sb x/r over pairs otf, leads ott with what he thinks is the best hand, doesn't bf or blk bet otr. Is passive pre. I don't know how to translate all of sb action into what type of player he is. But I already like this post by op because if you can read between the lines you gain a huge edge in the game. Following.

I would really pay attention to his ch/r sizing (and turn sizing) in the future. It's possible that he will be using a bigger size with his draws or strong made hands. It's also interesting that he ch/c OTR. I guess he thinks you are peeling flop and turn really light (pure floats/ weak made hands) to bluff the river. I would probably assume that he might naturally be suspicious and would probably be less inclined to bluff him in these spots going forward. Of course this can sometimes become a leveling thing.

My reads on hero would be that you might be stubborn vs. ch/r in these spots where villain reps lots of draws. If this really is the case, I would be more likely to keep putting pressure on your weak range by barreling turn and river after ch/r (obv depending on board runouts). If you then adjust by making light calldowns when draws miss, etc, then I'd probably start adjusting to go for thinner value OTF (weaker TP hands). We can also adjust by slowplaying premiums pre if we have the right dynamic.

A lot of assumptions here, but these kinds of things are good to think about. Interested to hear what others would gather from this hand. Nice thread.

Yeah you're probably right about the call. I find it hard to fold when there's so many bluffs in someones range but 66 is doing bad by the river.

how do you know there are so many bluffs? if there are, you will be better off calling with many, many other hands (like JT)

another nice post from zach ^^

Notes on you would include....c-bets whole range on every board(I know your turn range is prob face up a lot, or weak if you like to barrell)So I would be hella floating you IP....Calls light to c/r (Also your range is wide/weak in c/r spots on these boards,..Would be taking very aggressive lines vs you and putting you in tough spots..

So I would prob be taking a lot calling c/r turn lines vs you depending on texture and a lot of c/r flops and barrelling off on good runouts..And thin v-betting you

I think you should fold the flop here 66 isnt bad just on the river, its bad on the flop when your gonna get to river, you are crushed vs a c/r range here a lot...you know your only a 60% fav vs random overcards with a heart on these boards where you can become counterfitted..and thats the weakest part of a c/r range, that prob c/r at a very low frequency and villian rarely c/r that range..You are way behind a normal c/r range here...

Notes on villain would be..Plays his hand strength..I would be bet-folding this guy a ton with value..And be dbling good turns as bluffs..And be folding to his Raises and only calling them with the very top of my range..

Not trying to be a douche either, but I woudl be playing 5-10nl if I were you...you are gonna get raped a lot at 100nl by good regs.

I do ok but thanks for the response anyway.

Also I don't agree with some of what you said, villain obv c/r more than a strong value range.. 99 on 788 is rather thin.

how do you know there are so many bluffs? if there are, you will be better off calling with many, many other hands (like JT)

another nice post from zach ^^

Thanks Terp.

Not trying to be a douche either, but I woudl be playing 5-10nl if I were you...you are gonna get raped a lot at 100nl by good regs.

Not quite sure what this means.

I think he is trying to say his flop and turn call are bad..

I think he is trying to say his flop and turn call are bad..

Fine. But that's no reason to demean someone. We all have leaks and that's why we post on the forums. To say 100nl is like this really tough game full of good regs is misleading (it's not at all imo).

Fine. But that's no reason to demean someone. We all have leaks and that's why we post on the forums. To say 100nl is like this really tough game full of good regs is misleading (it's not at all imo).

Yeah I agree with you here. The fish are just as bad as they are in the micros, and the regs are often super exploitable.

Thanks for posting.