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DC Shorts: CrackMonkey (#2) - River Situations Part 2

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DC Shorts: CrackMonkey (#2) - River Situations Part 2 by Crackmonkey

CrackMonkey continues to talk about various river situations.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 30 minutes long
  • Posted 10 months ago

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AycheDubbleYou

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Time Link to 00:23:08

im kind of getting a stubborn PP from the way its playing out here.44-99 its seems.I dont usually see many bluffs,that Check Min Raise the turn and shove river for theyre remaining 50% pot size Stack.I kind of feel that he'd play 33 44 55 this way and possibly even turn 66 77 99 into a bluff on the river.I usually play at a lower level but i think id find a fold here if put in the same situation.
Usually when i see a player that shoves for an amount that looks like it "has to get called" on the river,theyre usually in the lead.

Posted 10 months ago

zachd2323

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Time Link to 00:15:29

What would you do with a hand like AQdd? Are you still calling?

Posted 10 months ago

Crackmonkey

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im kind of getting a stubborn PP from the way its playing out here.44-99 its seems.I dont usually see many bluffs,that Check Min Raise the turn and shove river for theyre remaining 50% pot size Stack.I kind of feel that he'd play 33 44 55 this way and possibly even turn 66 77 99 into a bluff on the river.I usually play at a lower level but i think id find a fold here if put in the same situation.
Usually when i see a player that shoves for an amount that looks like it "has to get called" on the river,theyre usually in the lead.



You're on the right track. Against a total unknown or someone with more sensible turn raise stats, I'd probably find a fold. The key for me here was that the guy seemed to be a little goofy on the turn.

Posted 10 months ago

Crackmonkey

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What would you do with a hand like AQdd? Are you still calling?



Definitely makes it a little tougher given I don't block 2 combos of 77 anymore, and he can possibly have some 2 pair hands that beat me ( A5s and A7s ). The thing is, there's only 1 combo of each if I now have the Ad with the cards on the board, and there's a good chance at least A5 folds on the turn. Other 2 pair hands don't make sense given what's on the board. He may just call down if he can show up with Aces up. Given all that, 55 and 77, and AJ are the only sensible value hands for him to have on the river, so I still think I call given he's a laggy player and can have a lot of draw hands that your average TAG isn't going to get to the river with.

Posted 10 months ago

AycheDubbleYou

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You're on the right track. Against a total unknown or someone with more sensible turn raise stats, I'd probably find a fold. The key for me here was that the guy seemed to be a little goofy on the turn.


isnt it possible that a fishstick would lead his set into you on the A turn because he feels that your most likely holding is AK(all fish put theyre opp. on AK when they have a pair to justify a bad call down)(ie:"Oh,i called 100bb on 3 streets cause i put him on AK)and is expecting the for his "trap" to now go into effect? p.s. i love fishsticks

Posted 10 months ago

Crackmonkey

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isnt it possible that a fishstick would lead his set into you on the A turn because he feels that your most likely holding is AK(all fish put theyre opp. on AK when they have a pair to justify a bad call down)(ie:"Oh,i called 100bb on 3 streets cause i put him on AK)and is expecting the for his "trap" to now go into effect? p.s. i love fishsticks



It's certainly possible, but I think most players at least know that the A is a "good barreling card" and will hope that you continue betting.

Posted 10 months ago

zachd2323

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Definitely makes it a little tougher given I don't block 2 combos of 77 anymore, and he can possibly have some 2 pair hands that beat me ( A5s and A7s ). The thing is, there's only 1 combo of each if I now have the Ad with the cards on the board, and there's a good chance at least A5 folds on the turn. Other 2 pair hands don't make sense given what's on the board. He may just call down if he can show up with Aces up. Given all that, 55 and 77, and AJ are the only sensible value hands for him to have on the river, so I still think I call given he's a laggy player and can have a lot of draw hands that your average TAG isn't going to get to the river with.



Yeah that makes sense, I agree it's a call. I was just wondering what your cutoff would be for calling here.

Posted 10 months ago

DjuNKeLL

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Time Link to 00:21:20

Your saying multiple times that the stats were different while playing. But on the right bottom you marked both ''show players stats'' and ''stats up to day of hand''. Doesn't that mean that the stats you are referring to in the hand reviewer are actually the stats exactly as they were playing this hand at that moment?

Posted 10 months ago

DjuNKeLL

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Time Link to 00:29:52

I think this is a fold. The only thing is that if villain is a good hand reader, he knows you have basically no Jx hands here (I assume you don't flat AJs/KJs/JQs/JTs that often in this spot, being AJs the most likely). But that's probably not a good basic estimation at these stakes I guess.

Do you think the cold call 3b is still the best option preflop, and this hand is just a particular bad runout, but on average cold calling pre outweightes 4betting?

Posted 10 months ago

Crackmonkey

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Your saying multiple times that the stats were different while playing. But on the right bottom you marked both ''show players stats'' and ''stats up to day of hand''. Doesn't that mean that the stats you are referring to in the hand reviewer are actually the stats exactly as they were playing this hand at that moment?



You're absolutely right. That's my mistake.

It doesn't change the way I feel about the hand though.

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Crackmonkey

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I think this is a fold. The only thing is that if villain is a good hand reader, he knows you have basically no Jx hands here (I assume you don't flat AJs/KJs/JQs/JTs that often in this spot, being AJs the most likely). But that's probably not a good basic estimation at these stakes I guess.

Do you think the cold call 3b is still the best option preflop, and this hand is just a particular bad runout, but on average cold calling pre outweightes 4betting?



You're right that I don't ever have any Jx hands here despite he is a very active 3 bettor vs EP raises. I'm more likely to just cold 4 bet the hands you have listed and try to take it down preflop

I like the cold call because villain appears to be rather aggressive. We can certainly tell that he is aggressive preflop, especially in this particular scenario. Most players at these levels have 2-5% 3 bet vs EP and he's at 14% over 29 hands. I want to give him a chance to come along with a lot of inferior hands, while at the same time also keeping the fish UTG player in as well. Sometimes they're going to suck out on me, but more often than that they miss the flop entirely or make a second best hand that they will have a very tough time getting away from now that the pot is already fairly large preflop.

It's also fun when the fish backraise jams something like 77.

Posted 10 months ago

Crackmonkey

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Do you think the cold call 3b is still the best option preflop, and this hand is just a particular bad runout, but on average cold calling pre outweightes 4betting?



Just want to make sure I point out that my decision to cold call pre was very villain dependent. Most of the time when you see UTG+1 3 bet a UTG open, he has a very strong range and you're better off just 4 betting and getting it in. In this hand I thought it was very likely that a cold 4 bet from me would just fold out both of their hands. Playing a 3 way 3 bet pot in position aganist 2 LAGs seems more +EV to me than that option.

Posted 10 months ago

ThinkingQuest

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One thing confused me is that, 1st hand , hero's num of hands is 303k. While the 2nd hand, in which hero holds A7ss, hero's num of hands is 10k, but the player in the small blind position, his num of hands is 303k.

So , in this A7 hands, our opponent's stat is 40/24 for sure?

Posted 10 months ago

Crackmonkey

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One thing confused me is that, 1st hand , hero's num of hands is 303k. While the 2nd hand, in which hero holds A7ss, hero's num of hands is 10k, but the player in the small blind position, his num of hands is 303k.

So , in this A7 hands, our opponent's stat is 40/24 for sure?



You're absolutely right. The HUD stats shown here aren't for any of the players in this hand, actually. It looks like HEM didn't update the HUD properly when I moved on to the next hand. The villain was still a laggy player, playing 33/25, but it was only over 26 hands. I went with the read that he was playing a looser preflop game, meaning he can show up with more busted draws on the river than your standard tag can.

I apologize for the misleading HUD stats. I guess I need to pay more attention next time and make sure the stats show up correctly as I'm moving through the replayer.

Good catch and thanks for pointing this out.

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