Time Link to 00:04:28
I think this math is wrong. By opening 2.5x we are risking 8 to win 6, so it needs to work more than half the time, not less.
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Time Link to 00:04:28
I think this math is wrong. By opening 2.5x we are risking 8 to win 6, so it needs to work more than half the time, not less.
Time Link to 00:14:56
If we put more emphasis on the fact that this is blind versus blind could we assume the WTSD stat is not necessariy an accurate indicator of his floating range? He just doesn't believe you in a blind vs blind situation and will call down lighter than normal.
I thought this was a really good idea for a video and really helpful. Thanks for doing this.
love the video...seems like krantz got a very good work ethic..all his videos are like 1hour long...ty...@Martinez: do you coach? I really like you're thoughts on the hands. I'm very interested, ty
love the video...seems like krantz got a very good work ethic..all his videos are like 1hour long...ty...@Martinez: do you coach? I really like you're thoughts on the hands. I'm very interested, ty
Hey,
I am glad that you liked that video
Unfortunately I can't respomd to questions right now cuz I don't have subscription here ![]()
I used to coach in the past but I did that in my native language.
Now I have two lovely kids so I have very little free time so I can't coach anymore.
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Time Link to 00:14:35
Speaking of adjustments, do we value barrel rather than pot control our middle strength SD value hands vs him now? Like, what if we get a similar spot vs him again with AQ?
I fully understand the idea behind this video and there are many good observations and a good discussion. I also understand that it is hard to cover everything, but I don't think it is a good idea to skip over hero's actual range, what range villain is likely to assign to hero and how we can be expected to play on various river.
Besides the assumptions made based on villain's fold to flop cbet and estimates of how wide villain sees the flop it is simply not correct to use hud stats in the way it was attempted in this video. Villain's range depends way too much on the positions and the board texture (implicit his assumptions about our range) for some avg. numbers to have such a big impact on how we play.
Consider the two different board run outs:
T446tt
T44Qtt
In both cases hero's range picks up a lot of GSs.
On the first board texture hero is very likely too honest on the river => villain is never ever folding Ax. And Ax is not at the btm of villain's range. Kx, Qx, (Jx) are.
On the 2nd board texture hero will also binks a Q from time to time. This means that hero is likely to bet the river with good frequencies => villain will fold Ax because calling turn will lead to too many river spots where folding and calling are pretty close. And because villain will also bink a Q Ax as at the btm of his range on the turn.
An example of how you could have used the stats
You could have used the nits insanely high fold 2 cbet stat to exclude a lot of overcards from his range. => on overcard turn this player is going to fold a lot (Ax + pp).
The where as the laggy player is going to have a good chunk of over cards in his range => he is going to fold more on low turn.
Last but not least there are way more Tx combos in villain's range than PPs. PPs are a very small portion of both players ranges.
If we put more emphasis on the fact that this is blind versus blind could we assume the WTSD stat is not necessariy an accurate indicator of his floating range? He just doesn't believe you in a blind vs blind situation and will call down lighter than normal.
I would assume so and feel good about that, but I am no stats man...
I fully understand the idea behind this video and there are many good observations and a good discussion. I also understand that it is hard to cover everything, but I don't think it is a good idea to skip over hero's actual range, what range villain is likely to assign to hero and how we can be expected to play on various river.
Besides the assumptions made based on villain's fold to flop cbet and estimates of how wide villain sees the flop it is simply not correct to use hud stats in the way it was attempted in this video. Villain's range depends way too much on the positions and the board texture (implicit his assumptions about our range) for some avg. numbers to have such a big impact on how we play.
Consider the two different board run outs:
T446tt
T44Qtt
In both cases hero's range picks up a lot of GSs.
On the first board texture hero is very likely too honest on the river => villain is never ever folding Ax. And Ax is not at the btm of villain's range. Kx, Qx, (Jx) are.
On the 2nd board texture hero will also binks a Q from time to time. This means that hero is likely to bet the river with good frequencies => villain will fold Ax because calling turn will lead to too many river spots where folding and calling are pretty close. And because villain will also bink a Q Ax as at the btm of his range on the turn.
An example of how you could have used the stats
You could have used the nits insanely high fold 2 cbet stat to exclude a lot of overcards from his range. => on overcard turn this player is going to fold a lot (Ax + pp).
The where as the laggy player is going to have a good chunk of over cards in his range => he is going to fold more on low turn.
Last but not least there are way more Tx combos in villain's range than PPs. PPs are a very small portion of both players ranges.
TY good points Master improva
*bows humbly*
Time Link to 00:22:48
He might have 55-99 which makes 18 combos. I believe that by betting little bit over half pot we can induce him to fold them and make this play +EV.
Btw. Your post was mind-blowing, improva. TY!
Time Link to 00:30:43
1. What hands would you fall for you x/c range on the flop? I guess every Ax we decided to play and that would be it?
2. What about Axss? When facing such a barrel happy opponent who will likely bluff on flush cards isn't it better to just x/c instead of c/r-ing?
3. What hands would put in your c/r range? We're facing an apparently strong range so out bluff frequency should be lower. Let's say we've got 56 of spades. How will you decide whether it's better to x/r on the flop, turn or river?
Sorry this has nothing to do with the video but I just wanted to know how you converted the WSOP 09' poker chips to be compatible with the PT4 replayer? I changed the chips from .bmp to .png and the chips did appear in the replayer but with a black square around it. How did ya make it appear like it does when using them in pokerstars? Or is there a place where I could maybe get this replayer theme also? I don't see it in the PT4 website :-(
Sorry again!
1. What hands would you fall for you x/c range on the flop? I guess every Ax we decided to play and that would be it?
2. What about Axss? When facing such a barrel happy opponent who will likely bluff on flush cards isn't it better to just x/c instead of c/r-ing?
3. What hands would put in your c/r range? We're facing an apparently strong range so out bluff frequency should be lower. Let's say we've got 56 of spades. How will you decide whether it's better to x/r on the flop, turn or river?
I'd be calling Axss without a good reason to c/r. The bluffier the opponent is the better calling is, but if you have a big Axss you could c/r the looser/more stationy players. With the weak flush draws I'd just be c/r-ing the flop, if called it depends on the opponent and how often he's c-betting and calling checkraises. The weaker his range, the more often I continue betting. You can make a strong argument for c/c-ing with weak flush draws against opponents who aren't likely to bluff multiple streets.
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