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FatKing85

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[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $352.32 (176.2 bb)
SB: $416.20 (208.1 bb)
BB: $223.30 (111.7 bb)
Hero (UTG): $276.36 (138.2 bb)
MP: $413.91 (207 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with ADiamond JClub
Hero raises to $7, MP folds, CO calls $7, 3 folds

Flop: ($17) AClub 8Diamond JDiamond (2 players)
Hero bets $12, CO calls $12

Turn: ($41) QHeart (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $28, Hero raises to $88, CO calls $60

River: ($217) 8Club (2 players)
Hero bets $169.36 and is all-in,



villain is 25/19. his calling range in the CO is around 10%. his 3bet is rather low with around 5 %, and after a few hundred hands, has never 3bet vs utg or mp. I wont give him AA/KK/QQ that much in his range, but I guess AK and JJ might be in it more often than not.
i give him something like this: JJ-22, AQs-ATs, KJs+, QJs, JTs, AJo+

he might fold AJo vs an UTG open but note that it is only 2 combos against which we split, so him calling with AJo and stacking off should barely raise the EV.
I looked at his DB and saw indeed, that he calls a lot of hands that most regs would rather 3bet on both sides of a polarized range.


flop: my betsize is a bit off. 14$ would have been better. problem was that i made it small against him before and didnt want to scare him when i was holding top2.
so far he called 8/12 cbets, never raised. i decided to check and give him a chance to bet. I think theres a decent chance he flatted most fd on the flop since there are 2 highcards and he hasnt raised yet.AK and QJs are very likely to valuebet, id guess TT and KQ might bet sometimes as well.

im loosing value from KJ, QT and JT, those hands might call a small barrel and now check behind.
how. and of course im loosing to KTs, AQ, all sets and T9s in case he has it.

I decided to go for a checkraise since all those worse hands that he valuebets are a decent chance that he calls my raise. slight problem with the fd on his part though is that the Ad and Jd are already out.

so he does and were on the river. i decided against a bluffcatch. my checkraise on the turn implies too much strength for him to just bluffshove a busted draw or a busted combodraw that is now a pair.

QJ is always folding and never betting anyway.
KdQd might hero call once in a while and never bets for value.
AQ and AK are almost the same to him (i just happen to have the one combo of my range where it actually makes a difference). I think theres some chance he calls with those hands. theres 6 combos of AQ and 8 of AK.

Posted 10 months ago

zachd2323

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This really seems like you're turning your hand into a bluff here...I don't see how this can be a value bet vs. his range.

Posted 10 months ago

SchFerreira

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Hate your line. Definitely bet turn.

As played, x/f river. (and it's not close, IMO)

Posted 10 months ago

improva

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I think I prefer XC over XR - if you want to X

Posted 10 months ago

StackHunter

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I think his range OTT is:

Board: Ac 8d Jd Qh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.594% 42.98% 04.61% 643 69.00 { AdJc }
Hand 1: 52.406% 47.79% 04.61% 715 69.00 { JJ, 88, ATs+, KcQc, KdQd, KJs, QJs, JTs, T9s, AQo+, AhJc, AsJc, AsJd, AsJh }

So as you can see it's gonna be pretty hard to make a v-bet here, unless he calls TT/99 on the flop, but these hands still won't call your turn barrel.
Providing he is stabby I think going for a x/c might be a better idea.
Check raise is like turning your hand into a bluff - almost no worse hands will call you and you value cut yourself against his range.

Posted 10 months ago

Miserry

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What means if he is stabby or not, huge part of his range hits this board and he is gonna valuebet or not/ or bet with his fd's almost allways, because we Cbet a lot this flop and then give up.

So as you can see it's gonna be pretty hard to make a v-bet here, unless he calls TT/99 on the flop, but these hands still won't call your turn barrel.



This means that we should bet the turn, because bet is +ev, but X may be or may be not +ev, given the fact that he bets only strong part of his range, but check back most part of his range.

I'd expect him to check back AT, AK, JT, QT, and all these hands have equity against us, if they fold vs our turn bet, then we are happy, because pot equity + fold equity makes our bet ++EV.
Also AK and AT are most likely to call the turn bet.

Posted 10 months ago

StackHunter

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What means if he is stabby or not, huge part of his range hits this board and he is gonna valuebet or not/ or bet with his fd's almost allways, because we Cbet a lot this flop and then give up.



This means that we should bet the turn, because bet is +ev, but X may be or may be not +ev, given the fact that he bets only strong part of his range, but check back most part of his range.

I'd expect him to check back AT, AK, JT, QT, and all these hands have equity against us, if they fold vs our turn bet, then we are happy, because pot equity + fold equity makes our bet ++EV.
Also AK and AT are most likely to call the turn bet.



Looks fine. Betting should be prob the most +EV option.

Posted 10 months ago

NoWayFolding

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I'd expect him to check back AT, AK, JT, QT, and all these hands have equity against us, if they fold vs our turn bet, then we are happy, because pot equity + fold equity makes our bet ++EV.
Also AK and AT are most likely to call the turn bet.




Most of what youve said is correct part from this. You want him to call all of the hands youve listed, but they wont bet turn themselves.

Posted 10 months ago




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