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Miserry

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Imo these numbers can't mean nothing.

Posted 10 months ago

improva

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Imo these numbers can't mean nothing.



In this spot they mean nothing. When we are faced with a river bet as the pre flop caller and the numbers are very high or very low then we can use them to adjust our play.

Posted 10 months ago

blah234

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In this spot they mean nothing. When we are faced with a river bet as the pre flop caller and the numbers are very high or very low then we can use them to adjust our play.



this, there's basically no difference between 22% and 30% AF. Also you need to take into account other stats. One stat in a by itself mean very little.

Posted 10 months ago

zachd2323

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Well - what matters in this situation is not so much if it is a great line or not. When we bet, bet, check we have a fair bit of Kx hands in our range and seldom any Ax+ hands => villain _should_ bet all his Ax+ (busted fds and maybe a few marginal sd hands like 98s) to put all hands we are pot controlling in a tough spot. I know there is a very big difference between should and what people actually do.

If you see a dude XB Ax on the river.. Well, then snap XC with all hands with SD.



That makes sense. I just generally do not expect most 100nl players to turn their marginal sd hands into bluffs, which is why I wouldn't want to bet, bet, ch/c Kx in this spot.

Posted 10 months ago

gamble_ftw

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Well - what matters in this situation is not so much if it is a great line or not. When we bet, bet, check we have a fair bit of Kx hands in our range and seldom any Ax+ hands => villain _should_ bet all his Ax+ (busted fds and maybe a few marginal sd hands like 98s) to put all hands we are pot controlling in a tough spot. I know there is a very big difference between should and what people actually do.

If you see a dude XB Ax on the river.. Well, then snap XC with all hands with SD.



I wouldn't bet Kx on the turn as his calling range would crush me and I don't think he'd start bluffing this board much when checked to. I might double barrel bluff though vs draws and pps so I won't be too unbalanced, but will be polarized.

River I expect him to check back Ax but also kind of think most ppl are afraid to bluff this board so I like c/f sd value hands. So I like overbetting river, just wondering if I could get much more than $70 there

Posted 10 months ago

NoWayFolding

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Are players getting worse? I guess that is good news.

Then I would prefer to overbet the river. Only chance of us repping a bluf.



Lol..

People understand ranges more.
Reg on reg action means alot of decent regs have a c/f or a c/r range on this river as CO since we dont expect many bluffs by BTN on river (unless he has a few combos of FD/double floats). Given the fact people actually play tighter in the CO than say 2 years ago means people check way more with Ax OTR due to the fact that CO doesnt have much of a c/c range.

Posted 10 months ago

dietchipz

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Lol..

People understand ranges more.
Reg on reg action means alot of decent regs have a c/f or a c/r range on this river as CO since we dont expect many bluffs by BTN on river (unless he has a few combos of FD/double floats). Given the fact people actually play tighter in the CO than say 2 years ago means people check way more with Ax OTR due to the fact that CO doesnt have much of a c/c range.



I think people do understand ranges more, they just dont understand there own range, or percieved range they more likely play there hand vs villains range..

Posted 10 months ago




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