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Is anyone of you guys check-calling the flop as pfr with a flushdraw? And if yes, why is that better then cbetting?

Not with a pure flush draw, but could see an argument for x/c with a Kx FD that is not AK. If you think about Heroes range here for calling a utg open a lot of his range his KQ and AK. So if I have KJ or KT here, maybe there's some value in a x/c to let villain fire with air.

Yeah I agree but thats about it right? That are the only possible hands to check-call.. 2 combos. I can't find a fold here. Villain could see our weak river bet as thin value and turn hands into bluff

Actually a tighter range has suited cards more often than unsuited.

More in relation to unsuited cards. But the total number of suited combos decreases as the range gets tighter. In this example I would not expect a 12% utg range to contain KTs, where I would expect a 20 % range to.

More in relation to unsuited cards. But the total number of suited combos decreases as the range gets tighter. In this example I would not expect a 12% utg range to contain KTs, where I would expect a 20 % range to.

It depends on how villain constructs his range, but I think a 12% opening range can look like this:
66+, A6s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, AQo+, KQo

If someone had a 20% range, it can look very similar, but with more unsuited broadways and Ax. So tighter ranges are more likely to have a flush draw than wide ranges IMO. I'm not sure about this but it makes sense to me.

Yeah I agree but thats about it right? That are the only possible hands to check-call.. 2 combos. I can't find a fold here. Villain could see our weak river bet as thin value and turn hands into bluff

But... How often have you ever seen someone ( someone thats not a fish) x/c x/c x/shove as a bluff? It just doesn't happen. Even though those hands are only 2 combos, I'd be willing to lay money 4:1 that he had exactly one of those hands.

But... How often have you ever seen someone ( someone thats not a fish) x/c x/c x/shove as a bluff? It just doesn't happen. Even though those hands are only 2 combos, I'd be willing to lay money 4:1 that he had exactly one of those hands.

If he is capable of checking flop with Kxx, then he is capable to checking sets in this spot. He's probably thinking along the lines, I have the board crush, my opponents cant have anything, lets check to induce. Even if don't give him any bluffs, and only check with a set like 1/3 of the time, its still a call. If you seen him just c/c with a set in this spot, then you can argue that it could be a fold.