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rohan68

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hi not sure of the play


Ongame Network $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1808160
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Hero (SB): $218.00 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 3.1, Hands: 304818
BB: $448.85 - VPIP: 34, PFR: 10, 3B: 5, AF: 1.5, Hands: 184
UTG: $76.65 - VPIP: 39, PFR: 4, 3B: 1, AF: 1.8, Hands: 278
MP: $222.20 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 3.6, Hands: 8422
CO: $201.90 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 22, 3B: 5, AF: 2.5, Hands: 669
BTN: $213.90 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 15, 3B: 6, AF: 4.5, Hands: 6007

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is SB with A Heart Q Spade
UTG checks, 1 fold, CO raises to $8, BTN calls $8, Hero raises to $28, 3 folds, BTN raises to $213.90, Hero ???
bnt and co are 2 good regs who wins at nl 200-400
co isolate with a wide range
btn is supposed to have a capped range, i suppose he would 3 bet his good hands ,i put him on pocket paires and suited connectors (with broadways also)
when he NYBK i m lost, i would prefer have a pocket pair but i told to mysel if was not very often good to 3bet fold with AQ and i have a quite obvious spot to bluff so he can think i m light
we are 100bb deep
i need 42% to call his shove, i got that vs Pocket pairs and maybe he can do it wiht AXs...i believe he would 4bet his premiums...


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.596% 47.20% 00.40% 436415004 3674736.00 { AQo }
Hand 1: 52.404% 52.01% 00.40% 480879684 3674736.00 { 88-22, ATs }

so i have to call?
that's very unclear thanks for your help

have a nice day

PS stats are not really accurate since i havent played for a long time on this site..

edit i messed positions

Posted 11 months ago

rohan68

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hello, this hans is too basic or too difficult ? (last up
thanks and have a good week end

Posted 11 months ago

StackHunter

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I think you messed up the posistions:
- you are the SB
- I guess you meant both CO and BTN are winning regs
- CO isolates with a wide range
- BTN is supposed to have a capped range

First of all, I don't like your sqz sizing. I'd make it about $34.

As played, I think I'd fold for a couple of reasons.
- BTN is a good winning reg and is unlikely to spazz out
- he 3-bets only 6% and I do believe he flats here premiums at least some % of the time (in order to keep the fish in the pot), so I'd put here about 6 combos of AK, 3 combos of QQ, 1 combo of AA and 1 of KK
- your pot odds: 42.560%
- your equity:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.826% 38.28% 00.55% 20973692 300400.00 { AhQs }
Hand 1: 61.174% 60.63% 00.55% 33219236 300400.00 { AcAs, KhKs, QdQh, QdQs, QhQs, JJ-88, AKs, AcKs, AdKs }

Your stove doesn't make much sense and it looks like you adjusted this range in order to justify your call. Where are 99-JJ? They are way way more likely than small PPs. Also, AQs/AQo are more likely than ATs. Calling can't be a +EV move.

From now, I'd flat hands like AQo next time and sqz only for value with the intention of getting it in pre everytime with { AK, TT+ }.

Posted 11 months ago

pokergarden

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I don't like a call for 3 reasons:

1) if the CO called the 3b here I could see btn maybe shoving small pp, but since your 3b was small and CO folded, I think he usually shows up here with strong range. There;s not enough dead money to justify the shove.

2) If you have decent squeeze percentage he can flat here with premiums sometimes.

3) He's much more likely to 4b bluff to something like $55 here, doesnt make sense to shove imo.

Obv it depends on a lot on your history with villain. im assuming either your hands are datamined or somehow you have no reads on a villain with 6k hands in your database.

Posted 11 months ago

rohan68

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hi
stackhunter,
if i sueez to 34 he cant 4bet/fold so he can't 4bet bluff so it makes the hand easier to play for him
you re right he surely flats premium i have to count so combos
i expect 99-JJ to call squeez ip, the same for AQs
i do not flat because its AQo and not AQs, more difficult to play vs 3 players oop (and 2 good players probably better than me)
why do you think it's better to get in in with TT , JJ than AQo?
thanks for your help

pokergarden
my hands are not datamined, i was a reg on this site 8 months ago and i m coming back on the site now, so i got plenty of notes nut not sure if they are relevant for a good 200/400 players 8 months after, that's why i did not put them here
i did not understand if you fold/call or squeez/fold preflop
thnaks

have a nice day

Posted 11 months ago

improva

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A couple of comments:

A) It is much more likely BTN has AA (KK) than say JJ, QQ, AK.

B) It is likely -EV to SQ fold in this spot vs two good players.

C) The SQ is already so big that you put CO in a shove or fold situation. BTN can call with some hands KQ, AJ, ATs.. but is certainly jamming 77+. The reason CO cannot call is that BTN can then pretty much shove any hand that looks remotely pretty.

D) The fact that BTN plays higher is only going to make him more splashy.

E) Don't ever fold here.

Posted 11 months ago

pokergarden

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I think it depends heavily on their 3b calling and 4b tendencies whether or not you squeeze here.

Against an unknown I would think 3b for value is fine, but you have to fold to this shove.

As far as being exploited by folding AQ, I don't think he would be shoving here enough for you to have to worry about being exploited by it.

Posted 11 months ago

rohan68

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improva
thanks
a)if the more likely premium is AA he does not have a lot since i got an A that would makes the call easier
b)that what i think and stove seemed to say the same, but is sueezing (and thus calling) ev-, would you prefer flat (i do not like i said above to play vs 3 playrers oop with AQo)
c right
d slashy?= trappy? (english is not my language)
e ok but is flat pre > suqeez call > squeez fold?
thanks

pokergarden
squeez fold seems ugly while regarding odds?
i need 42% to call
suppose he only trap and 4bet for value AK+ QQ+
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 24.420% 23.05% 01.37% 113673216 6751686.00 { AQo }
Hand 1: 75.580% 74.21% 01.37% 365966964 6751686.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
i should fold...but does he often flats these hands, i do not believe but mayeb it's a 400+ move than i do not know in my 100-200 games

i need few hands to reach my 42% (let say he flats 1/3 of his premiums and he nybk 22-99)
Board:
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 42.881% 42.50% 00.38% 486865311 4347099.50 { AQo }
Hand 1: 57.119% 56.74% 00.38% 649971866 4347099.50 { AcAd, AcAh, KcKd, KdKh, QcQd, QdQh, 99-22, AcKc, AcKd, AcKh, AdKc, AhKc }

Posted 11 months ago

pokergarden

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My line of thinking was that your squeeze wasn't big enough to put him in a shove of fold spot.

Being 110 bb deep I thought he could still 4b here.

Edit: 105bb...

Posted 11 months ago

improva

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Splashy: Not so careful with his chips.

Posted 11 months ago




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