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AA get it in on coordinated board or not?

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gamble_ftw

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Edit: 150nl so not deep

25/20 villain, 55 hands, 4max table, 3bet 6%, fold to steal 80% but it was bvb; his raise cbet was 1/4 or something like that

So pretty much unknown, what do you do here normally?

BB: €183.72
UTG: €154.89
BTN: €162.17
Hero (SB): €165.19

Hero posts SB €0.75, BB posts BB €1.50

Pre Flop: (pot: €2.25) Hero has AClub AHeart

fold, fold, Hero raises to €4.50, BB calls €3.00

Flop: (€9.00, 2 players) 9Club QSpade THeart
Hero bets €6.00, BB raises to €18.00, Hero raises to €45.00, BB raises to €179.22 and is all-in, Hero

Posted 12 months ago

Adriano85

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I think I'm bet-folding here. We do really poor vs his raising range in general. If we are IP we could call his bet or check-raise but since we are OOP this hand is so hard to play. We will face a turn barrel like always and we are only happy with an ace on the turn.

Edit: Plus there are no flush draws out which decreases our equity vs his raising range

Posted 12 months ago

dietchipz

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Spot where you should pokerstove his range and see how AA actually does vs his percieved range...Its actually a pretty common spot I find....helped me alot pokerstoving these spots.

Posted 12 months ago

Schweig

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Not sure what bet/3betting accomplishes if we aren't really doing it for value, and it also puts us in a weird spot when we get shoved on. It's a good way to lose the max when he flops a set or straight or two pair.

Posted 12 months ago

zachd2323

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Not sure what bet/3betting accomplishes if we aren't really doing it for value, and it also puts us in a weird spot when we get shoved on. It's a good way to lose the max when he flops a set or straight or two pair.



Yeah I think if I want to continue I would just call his raise. This spot sucks because he has so many hands that he can be raising for value and even his semi-bluffs have good equity vs. AA. I kind of want to just fold without some better reads even though it's BvB.

Posted 12 months ago

StackHunter

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Preflop
I'd open to 3 bbs being deeper than usually.

Flop
You can c-bet slightly bigger, since this board hits his range really hard and you will get plenty of action. Villain looks like an honest player, so I have no idea what you have done in this hand. It's a very clear b/f. Once you get raised you are done. Why? Because:
- like I said, this flop hits his range so hard
- he is a tight and honest player + unknown so far
- you are drawing dead vs str8 and almost drawing vs a set

Even if I would have a blocker to something (9, T, J, Q, K) I wouldn't bluff 3b the flop. Not mentioning doing it w/o card removal effect like you did. Calling his shove is going to be probably your biggest poker mistake ever, so don't do it!

Posted 12 months ago




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