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Poker Stars $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1807553
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UTG: $201.35
MP: $499.22
CO: $258.30
Hero (BTN): $204.16
SB: $211.50
BB: $254.66

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with 7 A
3 folds, Hero raises to $4.30, 1 fold, BB calls $2.30

Flop: ($9.60) 6 8 5 (2 players)
BB checks, [color=red]Hero ?

Villain shall be a solid aggressive reg who is capable of C/Ring some flops and plays well on later streets.
he folds to cbets like 42%.
Vs. 2ndbarells he peels kinda light (folds here only 29%) and vs. rivercbets he folds like about 50%.

I am pretty sure that w 1-card OESDs betting the flop to begin with is usually best b/c we have eq and decent barell-opportunities vs. his C/Callrange OTF.
though maybe the fact that we have the 1-card-OESD w the Ace makes a checkback somewhat better, what you think?
anyways, at least with other 1card-OESDs cbetting the flop should be a decent start.
But what we do when we get C/Red?
problems which I see regards to calling a C/Raise are
- our cbet/only callrange on such a board should be perceived as quite weak
=> hence unimproved we get barelled like almost always on the tuen and will have to fold most of the time there
=> on the other side: should we improve to a str8, then we have barely implieds.

- folding seems very weak to me

- what you think then of 3b/Folding?

ask yourself these question:
1. what is my range for betting this flop?
2. Is villain likely to be exploiting me raising this flop?
3. If I fold to raise here am I exploitable?

If 2 or 3 = no -> why both playing back?
if 2 = no -> lighting money on fire 3b/folding

^ I concur with that. If he's solid/aggressive he knows your range is strong when you cbet here, and he's not looking to fold much if he c/r. Bet/fold seems like the best line to me, unless his raise will be small of course

ask yourself these question:
1. what is my range for betting this flop?
2. Is villain likely to be exploiting me raising this flop?
3. If I fold to raise here am I exploitable?

If 2 or 3 = no -> why both playing back?
if 2 = no -> lighting money on fire 3b/folding

1.) 8x+, Ds, str8draws, some solid OCs, some OCs w BDFD.....
obv. it is a stronger range for cbetting than on a K43r-Board, but still it should be perceived as not too narrow b/c many parts of his range are also not connecting with this board (like all his broadways).

2.) yeah, I could imagine it cause he is quite aggressive and backplayish.

3.) have looked over a potential cbet-range from me here on this board and actually I would be not exploited when I continue only w my 8x and FDs here because then I continue already in more than 44%.
The 44% refers to common sizes: so let`s say I make it 7$ and villain would C/R me to 21, then he would need at least 56% FEQ to autoprofit here....

still:
With this special villan I think he is C/Ring me in general too often, so even though I would not need to playback w my OESD here, a 3b/F might be vs. him still +ev and re-exploit him or counter him best.

but b/c 3.) is not true, I guess furthermore your default vs. an unknown Reg would be just B/F here?
Or would you prefer with the ace-kicker a checkback with no info bout his stab-tendencies and C/R-tendencies?

1.) 8x+, Ds, str8draws, some solid OCs, some OCs w BDFD.....
obv. it is a stronger range for cbetting than on a K43r-Board, but still it should be perceived as not too narrow b/c many parts of his range are also not connecting with this board (like all his broadways).

2.) yeah, I could imagine it cause he is quite aggressive and backplayish.

3.) have looked over a potential cbet-range from me here on this board and actually I would be not exploited when I continue only w my 8x and FDs here because then I continue already in more than 44%.
The 44% refers to common sizes: so let`s say I make it 7$ and villain would C/R me to 21, then he would need at least 56% FEQ to autoprofit here....

still:
With this special villan I think he is C/Ring me in general too often, so even though I would not need to playback w my OESD here, a 3b/F might be vs. him still +ev and re-exploit him or counter him best.

but b/c 3.) is not true, I guess furthermore your default vs. an unknown Reg would be just B/F here?
Or would you prefer with the ace-kicker a checkback with no info bout his stab-tendencies and C/R-tendencies?

I think you need to learn to construct cbetting ranges and size better given your answer to 2. vs unknown this would be near the bottom of my cbetting range so personally I would b/f.

I feel like he can rep some overpairs, sets, and broadway FD here since you Have no blockers.

You can rep a decent amount that hit this board, so if he raises here I think you can fold.

Blah,

You don't mind b/f here because we don't have great equity right?

What about checking back and make a delayed cbet when villain checks the turn? I expect to get c/r a lot on boards like this by aggro villains so is cbetting the flop a good idea when you expect this to happen?

I think you need to learn to construct cbetting ranges and size better given your answer to 2. vs unknown this would be near the bottom of my cbetting range so personally I would b/f.

How you construct your cbettingranges?
I mean, obv. you will look at how often villain does fold on average to cbets, then assign villain a coldcallrange and look how he connects with the board.
How you estimate then what exact hands of your range you wanna cbet?

Would you mind to illustrate the whole process of your procedre in detail on this hand?
Would be certainly pretty helpful for many DC-members inclusive me.


So plz teach us coach.

That would be really helpful!

really helpful

Blah nailing it. Also keep in mind that if villain is checkraising you very frequently with really good ranges that are hard to deal with, his preflop 3bets and his flop check calls both become much weaker which you can take advantage of in exchange for b/f-ing away some hands you'd rather have checked knowing he was gonna raise. And if he has (almost) no check calling range you can exploit by adjusting your sizing.

Blah nailing it. Also keep in mind that if villain is checkraising you very frequently with really good ranges that are hard to deal with, his preflop 3bets and his flop check calls both become much weaker which you can take advantage of in exchange for b/f-ing away some hands you'd rather have checked knowing he was gonna raise. And if he has (almost) no check calling range you can exploit by adjusting your sizing.

yeah. good points^^
Thing is that he also does not fold to barells too much (on the river I have a low sample from him and his WTSD is so far on the larger side, while his Won$atSD is on the lower side...), so it seems that I have to find out what he is C/Ring (weaker range or stronger range) and what he is C/Calling (stronger range or weaker range with herocalling later a lot).

I also wonder if a checkback might be good here with this specific hand (w an ace-kicker) vs. someone who is C/Ring a lot and not C/Folding a ton to barells...