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Villain ìs 29/26 in 174 hands, 3bet 15%! - so far shown QQ,AKs,QTo. His cbet flop in 3b pots is 100%, 4/4. Do you agree with my line here?

UTG: €182.50
Hero (CO): €151.50
BTN: €283.09
SB: €150.00
BB: €173.78

SB posts SB €0.75, BB posts BB €1.50

Pre Flop: (pot: €2.25) Hero has A T

fold, Hero raises to €4.50, fold, SB raises to €13.50, fold, Hero calls €9.00

Flop: (€28.50, 2 players) A 3 6
SB bets €16.50, Hero calls €16.50

Turn: (€61.50, 2 players) 7
SB bets €34.50, Hero calls €34.50

River: (€130.50, 2 players) 2
SB bets €85.50 and is all-in, fold

What hands do you beat on the turn that beats you on the river? I don't see many.

I would go for a 4bet/fold preflop. (Simply because we never flop a great hand and even with top pair we are not happy calling down 3 streets vs aggression)

Double barrel % in 3bet pots?
Probably a good fold as your range is very much perceived as an Ax and the board doesn't run out bad for that so I doubt he thinks you will fold an A OTR.
What is his fold to 4 bet stat? ATo might be better off as a 4bet bluff vs a depolarised range IP. It will depend on how aggressive he is post flop and if it is actually 15% wide.

What hands do you beat on the turn that beats you on the river? I don't see any.

fyp,

This is a solid fold on the turn, you don't see many double barrel bluffs on Ax boards in 3bet boards.

That being said if villain is an aggro player there is a potential for a light calldown. Mostly because there are tons of pair+draw and FD combo's out there. But we need special info to consider that line, and some history preferably.

Your line is essentially the worst out there (no offence), either just fold the turn or commit all the way especially on this river that doesn't change anything.

What is FYP?

Fixed your post.
Not ment in a rude way, usually its used to underline what someone said in a more hyperbolic fashion.

Ok. yeah was trying to say we should call river when we call turn.

Yeah probably I should have 4bet; it's tough to know whether to 4b/f or 4b/c vs those types.

Reason for calling twice and folding river: I thought he's likely to try and move me off underpairs by double barrelling; also he may value bet worse aces if he's bad. But triple barreling seems too strong for those things.

I should just stay away of callin 3bets with this hand, AJ I'd insta call river.

I should just stay away of callin 3bets with this hand, AJ I'd insta call river.

This is incorrect thinking, its not like AJ beats any more hands then AT in this spot. You can argue you now beat AT with AJ but its highly unlikely thats the case. The reason for calling comes from how many missed draws are out there. Which is also why its highly related to villains aggressiveness.

Based on your response it looks like you have to start thinking more about his range, what I do notice is that you actively think about his reasons for barreling which is good. But its also about how many bluff combo's villain can have compared to his value hands to get an idea about how often he can be bluffing here.

Fixed your post.
Not ment in a rude way, usually its used to underline what someone said in a more hyperbolic fashion.

i always tought it meant Fuck Your Point
lol, and im serious...

i always tought it meant Fuck Your Point
lol, and im serious...

lol, thats amazing

I don't think we should fold the turn. When you call the flop, he can easily put you on pocket pairs or floats that you fold to a double barrel. You usually fold those to a turn bet, so on the river your hand looks a lot like Ax. I think it's wrong to say you should call the river if you call the turn, since the board didn't change. Even if the board doesn't change, our range does.
I actually don't mind your line.

Ok. yeah was trying to say we should call river when we call turn.

Not true.

People can double barrel these boards to get you off pairs <Ax but wont jam river to get you off Ax.