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micerik

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Cassava Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1791777
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MP: $101.00
CO: $112.78
BTN: $130.00
SB: $106.58
Hero (BB): $186.66
UTG: $20.44

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with K Heart Q Diamond
2 folds, CO raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) J Diamond 4 Heart 2 Club (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $6, Hero calls $6

Turn: ($18.50) 6 Spade (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $13.87, Hero calls $13.87

River: ($46.24) 2 Heart (2 players)
Hero bets $24

Villain plays 20/15 with 98% cbet , 40% on the turn and the turn af is 8 (550 hands)

He likely misses the flop but I dont like to c/r because I will rep less hands there and he´s maybe capable of playing back.
So I decide to float and to also call a turnbet. He will fire a tone on the turn because he wants me to fold my pockets .
On the river I donk and try to rep TPGK+ . Do you think the betsize matter there? Will he call 77-TT there (I discount these hands a little because he will sometimes checkbehind the turn)

Posted 12 months ago

D3rJack

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Villain plays 20/15 with 98% cbet , 40% on the turn and the turn af is 8 (550 hands)

He likely misses the flop but I dont like to c/r because I will rep less hands there and he´s maybe capable of playing back.
So I decide to float and to also call a turnbet. He will fire a tone on the turn because he wants me to fold my pockets .
On the river I donk and try to rep TPGK+ . Do you think the betsize matter there? Will he call 77-TT there (I discount these hands a little because he will sometimes checkbehind the turn)



I like your plan on the flop, given villain is cbetting the flop so much. So far he has been giving up on the turn a lot, at least that´s what the stats you have on him indicate. So why do you think he will bet as a bluff here with a high frequency? If you think so your flop call is horrible.... You can call flop if you expect him to shut down a lot on the turn but not if you expect him to keep on firing.
Given his way too high flop cbet you should rather still c/r even though you´re not repping a lot, IF you expect him to barrel frequently.

Calling the turn with the intention of leading the river is just really bad imo... You´re worried about c/r flop because you don´t rep anything, but you want to take this line to rep TPGK? Doesn´t make any sense to me...

If you c/c flop, fold turn! If you expect him to barrel turn a lot, don´t call flop but raise or fold!

Posted 12 months ago

micerik

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His 2nd barrel is "just" 40% but 40% of the nearly 100% he cbets with are still a tone and this board invites him to fire a second barrel.

Another question:
Do you like c/c - c/c - lead with hands like AJ/KJ there to expect a call with Jx and 88/99 ?
(If Villian isn´t that aggressive and too capable of bluffraising the river)

Posted 12 months ago

1bigazzdog

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xr the flop with hands like AJ KJ so u can also bluff raise hands like KQ instead of taking this weird xc,xc donk line.

Posted 12 months ago

1bigazzdog

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3bet pre>xr flop>=xc flop xf turn>>>>>>xc flop xc turn donk river. You say you don't want to xr flop because you don't rep anything but what do you rep by donking the river. Villian will most likely folding all his air which is alot to a flop xr especially if your image is not destroyed. do you have any reads on villian? i.e. barrelling tendencies on specific textures ,cbets gives up ,barrel happy ect. When we make this call pre flop we should already have a plan to exploit villain.
Did u have reasons for not 3betting pre or are u using a polarised strategy against this villain??

Posted 12 months ago

mwildjack

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Turn:
The flop hits his range 35% of the time when he has toppair+. When you say he continues 40% off the time on turn he probably has a hand so fold the turn.

River:
If you think he has all his Jx in his range and will fold his Jx hands including AJ, bet bigger on the river. You are giving him good odds on a call now

Posted 12 months ago

dietchipz

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Is villain betting 77-TT on turn?? be pretty thin value...seems like hes kind of polarizing himself on the turn...I would go with a turn c/r instead of leading river...think it more +EV then leading river...if you think villain is betting 77-TT on turn you should be betting bigger....it increases FE. Villain kind of looks llike villain is most likely gonna be barelling scare cards with his bluffs alot and picked up equity, with his turn c-bet percent...I would put him on a TP type of hand a lot....This SD can tell us a lot about villain also and his lines taken with certain hands...

Posted 12 months ago

zachd2323

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I think I would rather just x/r OTF and barrel a decent amount of turns. I also agree that we should be x/r AJ, KJ here vs. this guy. You say that you think he might be capable of playing back, but I think I would want to see him play back at me before I'd worry about not repping much. I don't mind the OOP float OTF, but I think I would just give up OTT. He's doesn't seem to be barreling turn that often.

Posted 12 months ago




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