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This guy is a typical TAG, 23/19, but with very high fold to 3b. 14/16.

The flop hits his range pretty damn hard, but I think I have too much equity to x/f. I was planning on betting flop to get some folds out of the few hands that missed, and x/f any turn that doesn't improve me.

On the turn, I bet for value, and when he shoves I thought his range had me crushed. Looking back, I think it was a pretty bad fold. Thoughts on betting the turn then what to do when he shoves.


UTG: $91.79
CO: $82.92
BTN: $64.90
Hero (SB): $58.22
BB: $93.68

Hero posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has J K

fold, CO raises to $1.50, fold, Hero raises to $5.00, fold, CO calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.50, 2 players) T Q 6
Hero bets $6.00, CO calls $6.00

Turn: ($22.50, 2 players) K
Hero bets $13.00, CO raises to $71.92 and is all-in, fold

CO wins $46.08





Board: Td Qh 6s Kc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 37.879% 32.58% 05.30% 258 42.00 { KsJd }
Hand 1: 62.121% 56.82% 05.30% 450 42.00 { TT, AKs, KJs+, QJs, JTs, AKo }

Preflop
He folds so much, you can 3-bet any two until he adjusts.

Flop
You think a guy with 87.5% fold vs 3-bet will have hands like KJs+/QJs/JTs here? IMO rather like this:

Board: Td Qh 6s Kc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.803% 51.89% 00.91% 685 12.00 { KsJd }
Hand 1: 47.197% 46.29% 00.91% 611 12.00 { QQ-TT, AQs+, KQs, AQo+ }


Problem with betting is there are no worse hands that could call you. I think he would check behind AQ/JJ, so if he bets, he has a following range:

Board: Td Qh 6s Kc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 16.970% 16.97% 00.00% 112 0.00 { KsJd }
Hand 1: 83.030% 83.03% 00.00% 548 0.00 { QQ, TT, AKs, KQs, AKo }

So you should x/f.


Don't feel bad for x/f here. That's ok, you can't beat such strong range with KJ. You exploit this guy by 3b him a lot pre, but as soon as he shows any resistance - you are done, unless you flop a miracle. You just simply can't have it "both ways", I mean both wide preflop range and strong postflop range ready to fight against a nit.
You chose to 3b him light, so adjust the rest of your postflop play to your overall plan against this player.

what do you beat?? thats floats this flop or calls

Preflop
He folds so much, you can 3-bet any two until he adjusts.

Flop
You think a guy with 87.5% fold vs 3-bet will have hands like KJs+/QJs/JTs here? IMO rather like this:

Board: Td Qh 6s Kc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.803% 51.89% 00.91% 685 12.00 { KsJd }
Hand 1: 47.197% 46.29% 00.91% 611 12.00 { QQ-TT, AQs+, KQs, AQo+ }


Problem with betting is there are no worse hands that could call you. I think he would check behind AQ/JJ, so if he bets, he has a following range:

Board: Td Qh 6s Kc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 16.970% 16.97% 00.00% 112 0.00 { KsJd }
Hand 1: 83.030% 83.03% 00.00% 548 0.00 { QQ, TT, AKs, KQs, AKo }

So you should x/f.


Don't feel bad for x/f here. That's ok, you can't beat such strong range with KJ. You exploit this guy by 3b him a lot pre, but as soon as he shows any resistance - you are done, unless you flop a miracle. You just simply can't have it "both ways", I mean both wide preflop range and strong postflop range ready to fight against a nit.
You chose to 3b him light, so adjust the rest of your postflop play to your overall plan against this player.

nice post

Really awesome post from StackHunter.

jam flop fish

jam flop fish

?

jam flop fish

Only fish would jam, I prefer an open fold.

Badass post by Stackhunter.

Sums up the turn very well. What about the flop though? I feel like ever option is reasonable, probably lean toward b/f>x/f>x/c

i'd like a delay cb on this board. some guys will check back as strong as AT/JJ if they suck. he won't have a ton to bluff with, so you'll save $ versus the strong hands that are not folding, collect your eq free and still be able to bluff versus some that could/will eventually and fold out 77 and whatnot on the turn, just as you would have on the flop.

turn looks like a pretty trivial c/f against a tight player

as far as preflop, don't get too carried away - yeah, he folds a lot, but even guys who have specific leaks get a clue if you hammer relentlessly on their leaks. ramp it up but don't go crazy or anything.

Stackhunter - Nice post

Terp - Agree w most, not totally w that he must suck for Xb AT, JJ ok that he gives us freecard which obv is not good vs KJ (not that common). But it could be a decent line for him to make if he think we are the type that will take random crap and bluff two streets. It also doenst make much sense for him to believe that we will XC many hands that he can get value from.

correct, there are reasons for him to play those hands like this - i should have said that

With have no SD value with KJ-high against this range and if we can fold out 12 combos of AK and maybe 3 combos of JJ - we can do it only on the flop, before he will change his mind or a bad card will fall on the turn.