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Party Poker $100 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1779807
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BB: $155.60 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 4, AF: 2.9, Hands: 654
UTG: $154.10 - VPIP: 37, PFR: 13, 3B: 3, AF: 2.0, Hands: 239
Hero (CO): $131.70 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 20, 3B: 11, AF: 4.1, Hands: 74488
BTN: $100.00 - VPIP: 30, PFR: 22, 3B: 4, AF: 4.0, Hands: 94
SB: $104.30 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 6, 3B: 6, AF: 2.1, Hands: 278 Fold cbet: 20(15), raise cbet 7(15), WWSF 57%(67), Agfq turn: 27(43)

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with A J
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($9.00) J 5 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8, SB calls $8

Turn: ($25.00) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $11.90, SB raises to $59.50

Hero?

Preflop
Std. raise for value combined with postflop play I think it's +EV. I put Villiain on something like: 22+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,ATo+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo I place all monsters here b/c vs. me Villian has not 3b 0(9)

Flop

Cbet for value, Villian is calling something like: QQ,JcJd,JcJs,JdJs,TT,8d8h,8d8s,8h8s,5c5d,5c5s,5d5s,AcKc,AhKh,
AsKs,AcQc,AhQh,AsQs,AcJc,AcTc,AhTh,AsTs,
KQs,KcJc,KdJd,KhTh,QcJc,QdJd,QTs,JcTc,JdTd,AcKd,AcKh,AcKs,
AhKc,AhKd,AhKs,AsKc,AsKd,AsKh,AcQd,AcQh,AcQs,
AhQc,AhQd,AhQs,AsQc,AsQd,AsQh,AcJd,AhJc,AhJd,AsJc,AsJd,ATo,
KQo,KcJd,KdJc,KhJc,KhJd,KsJc,KsJd,QcJd,QdJc,QhJc,QhJd,QsJc,QsJd

I assume KK+ raise. I have 69% equity vs. this range.


Turn:
How do you guys think Villian is constructing his turn c/r range? Imo is very depolarized, he doing it with almost any hand with decent equity and all monsters for protection against A flushdraw.
Something like: QQ,JcJd,JcJs,JdJs,TcTh,TcTs,ThTs,8d8h,8d8s,8h8s,5c5d,5c5s,5d5s,AhKh,AhQh,AcJc,AhTh,
KQs,KcJc,KdJd,KhTh,QcJc,QdJd,QhTh,JcTc,AcJd,AhJc,AhJd,AsJc,AsJd,KQo,KcJd,KdJc,KhJc,
KhJd,KsJc,KsJd,QcJd,QdJc,QhJc,QhJd,QsJc,QsJd

Vs. that range I have 54% equity and should call, but I think reraising AI is higher EV, because Villian will call my shove with the same range.
Thoughs plz?

villain has to be huge donkey to raise/call with a 1 pair hand.

villain has to be huge donkey to raise/call with a 1 pair hand.

Combine his raise sizing and the fact that it appears he's a loose passive should be enough to justify villain being a huge donkey.

I can't imagine that there's a huge EV difference in shoving on the turn and taking a b/c, call any river line?

as played: fold the turn.

I do not like the turn cbet at all, the T improves a lot of hands that villain c/c the flop with. And your bet sizing is giving away your hand strength.

Why did you choose that sizing on the turn? I guess you are trying to get calls from weaker J's?
There are not many weaker J's in his range on the turn and you give any 9 or 2 hearts damn good odds. Could you tell something about the difference in sizing on the flop and turn?

B/F turn as played. I think you overestimate the times he does this w a draw or just a TP hand.

I bet bigger on turn here and will flex my betsize more on the river based on his timing etc.

Why did you choose that sizing on the turn? I guess you are trying to get calls from weaker J's?
There are not many weaker J's in his range on the turn and you give any 9 or 2 hearts damn good odds. Could you tell something about the difference in sizing on the flop and turn?

Well I see your point , My thoughs were, to charge draws for max value OTF, when I betted turn I should have the same reasoning and betted closer to pot, as I give away my strengh of my hand as others have mentioned. My bad in this hand was, that I wasn't prepared facing a raise, because I only putted Villian on draws and slowplayed overpairs.

So bet fold turn here is best imo. Thanks..

Combine his raise sizing and the fact that it appears he's a loose passive should be enough to justify villain being a huge donkey.

I can't imagine that there's a huge EV difference in shoving on the turn and taking a b/c, call any river line?

Yes agree, I think Villians turn raise fold range is almost none hands or call turn fold river range.

as played: fold the turn.

I do not like the turn cbet at all, the T improves a lot of hands that villain c/c the flop with. And your bet sizing is giving away your hand strength.

Which hands are you thinking specifik referring to??

as played: fold the turn.

I do not like the turn cbet at all, the T improves a lot of hands that villain c/c the flop with. And your bet sizing is giving away your hand strength.

I think a turnbet w TPTK is not thin at all. With a weaker kicker i would consider Xback if i had the read that he´ll bet river too often and i´ve seen him XR turn before but dont know what to make of it..

I think a turnbet w TPTK is not thin at all. With a weaker kicker i would consider Xback if i had the read that he´ll bet river too often and i´ve seen him XR turn before but dont know what to make of it..

Don't you think we neede to bet for value/protection OTT?

IMO it's best to bet/fold turn, and not ck back, tbh T on the turn dont improves a lot of his range, i think it gives his range more reason to call rather then x/r

Looks like you are overcomplicating the things. You are facing a player, who is more on a passive side. Your basic plan is to v-bet him, unless your reads/observations tell you to do otherwise.

Preflop and flop are well played - big sizing exploiting his leaks.

Turn
And what the hell happened here, halfpot now? I wouldn't be surprised if your low sizing encouraged him to bluff you.

B/f for $19-$22. If he raises now, you are sure he has it and you can safely fold without leveling yourself.

Fold T helps his range a ton, we are best vs a bluff or semi

Looks like you are overcomplicating the things. You are facing a player, who is more on a passive side. Your basic plan is to v-bet him, unless your reads/observations tell you to do otherwise.

Preflop and flop are well played - big sizing exploiting his leaks.

Turn
And what the hell happened here, halfpot now? I wouldn't be surprised if your low sizing encouraged him to bluff you.

B/f for $19-$22. If he raises now, you are sure he has it and you can safely fold without leveling yourself.

This. I would be doing the same with J2.