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Villain had WTSD of 24%, very high raise CB (30%) on boards like these. Once he checks back the turn, and bets river I dont really expect to be good. decided to shove. Thoughts? He prob has hands like AJ/AT, KQ, etc lots

BTN: $221.00 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 20, 3B: 11, AF: 4.4, Hands: 38178
SB: $193.25 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 9, 3B: 4, AF: 2.7, Hands: 91
BB: $444.63 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.6, Hands: 32417
UTG: $212.88 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 10, AF: 3.2, Hands: 21290
Hero (MP): $202.00 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 3.1, Hands: 51624
CO: $195.80 - VPIP: 36, PFR: 1, 3B: 1, AF: 1.3, Hands: 904

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is MP with T T
1 fold, Hero raises to $6, 1 fold, BTN calls $6, 2 folds

Flop: ($15.00) 5 9 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $11.25, BTN raises to $30, Hero calls $18.75

Turn: ($75.00) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($75.00) K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $40.00, Hero raises to $166

this is fine as long as he isn`t known for calling station tendencies and you have clear image

if this works it's in spite of repping nothing. not saying it won't, but this is simply too opponent specific to say much about river.

flop is more interesting. you should know more about how he plays turns after raising if he raises this often. you should also know more about what he raises and how he responds to flop 3bets.

Do we know villain is raising sets on dry boards like this? I often see regs raising sets on dry boards because "they rep nothing". I've level myself a couple times and got stacked on boards like this so I'm paying more attention to it these days. If I'm pretty sure villain is only raising hands with low equity in spots like this I think a flop 3bet is not bad.

Bet fold ott? Seems like to me the Ah is hitting your perceived range and villain may fold JJ QQ KK.

Bet fold ott? Seems like to me the Ah is hitting your perceived range and villain may fold JJ QQ KK.

So you would call the flop raise with AQ and bet the turn? Calling a flop raise with 2 overs doesn't seems great to me...

Do we know villain is raising sets on dry boards like this? I often see regs raising sets on dry boards because "they rep nothing". I've level myself a couple times and got stacked on boards like this so I'm paying more attention to it these days. If I'm pretty sure villain is only raising hands with low equity in spots like this I think a flop 3bet is not bad.

So why do you think a flop 3bet is not bad? Are you raising for value or inducing? Otherwise i think B/C and bluffcatch is better.

As played i agree w Terp that its player dependant. i disagree w Terp that we rep nothing cause we still have some sets/ 2pairs (A2s/A5s/A9s/AK) + AQ. Also its hard for us to have any bluffs in our range cause we need to be doing something like this or Airfloat his raise OOP.

Bet fold ott? Seems like to me the Ah is hitting your perceived range and villain may fold JJ QQ KK.

this makes no sense? you want to overrep your hand against a guy who has a light range? you have all of this backward.

So you would call the flop raise with AQ and bet the turn? Calling a flop raise with 2 overs doesn't seems great to me...

this is actually fine (or can/should be) versus a guy with a super high flop raise. b/c, c/c are both options w/AQ depending on how he plays future streets

So why do you think a flop 3bet is not bad? Are you raising for value or inducing? Otherwise i think B/C and bluffcatch is better.

Excuse me, typo. I mixed up "is bad" and "is not great".

could be a bad line but may work as a bluff. I do sometimes peel with overs. I was wondering if a player has a high pfr % would it be ok to assume said player is raising mid pairs as often as AK?

So why do you think a flop 3bet is not bad? Are you raising for value or inducing? Otherwise i think B/C and bluffcatch is better.

As played i agree w Terp that its player dependant. i disagree w Terp that we rep nothing cause we still have some sets/ 2pairs (A2s/A5s/A9s/AK) + AQ. Also its hard for us to have any bluffs in our range cause we need to be doing something like this or Airfloat his raise OOP.

we rep nothing because checking river is prob (still player dependent) not best with a big hand. it looks like he is totally giving up or had a thin value hand on the flop. thus, we cannot really expect a river bet and a c/r is not a logical line for a strong hand.

further, when you say A2 / A5....i feel like you are just naming combos that are 'big' - it would be bad to b/c these hands on the flop unless we knew he did this with total air and always gave up. thus, we should not have them.

we rep nothing because checking river is prob (still player dependent) not best with a big hand. it looks like he is totally giving up or had a thin value hand on the flop. thus, we cannot really expect a river bet and a c/r is not a logical line for a strong hand.

further, when you say A2 / A5....i feel like you are just naming combos that are 'big' - it would be bad to b/c these hands on the flop unless we knew he did this with total air and always gave up. thus, we should not have them.

OK, its fine w me if you take away A2 and A5 from our range..

So now his range on the river is: Weak made hands, Bluffs (BD, GS, OC etc), maybe some combos of hands that was overpair on flop (JJ-AA?). Its also possible that he Xb w some Ax (we dont know how he play those). So where do you think its more value, terp, in betting or checking your strong hands?

this makes no sense? you want to overrep your hand against a guy who has a light range? you have all of this backward.

Terp I do know you re the man when it comes to this, I watched all of your hand reader series (probably gonna have to watch it again). I was just thinking if you check the A turn villain could easily rep (barrel) that card and make hero fold out better unless we aren't giving villain credit for any Ax.

micsquab, first, thanks. i am glad you enjoyed them!

as far as the spot, you are basically proposing an information bet instead of a c/decide spot. the reason we call the flop was that we thought he was bluffing. if our instinct on a future card is that he will be bluffing a lot, we should let him. in short, do not c/f!