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Just joined the table, no reads on this guy

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($100.10)
Hero ($100)
UTG ($100)
CO ($164.70)
BTN ($127.88)

Dealt to Hero J T

fold, CO raises to $3, fold, fold, Hero calls $2

FLOP ($6.50) J 4 K

Hero checks, CO bets $3.74, Hero ?

I just wonder what your default here is. I don't like c/c that much because my hand kinda looks like what it is and my c/c range is capped anyways, so he should barrel later streets quite a bit. OTOH my hand should still be ahead of his opening range and while c/f probably isn't terrible, it still feels weird.
I could also c/r as a "best hand I'd otherwise fold" kinda deal but first of all I have a pretty wide semibluffing range anyways, so no reason to do it with that little equity and I also expect to almost call exactly all better pairs. Only benefit is that I can bluff clubs very well unless he has one in his hand.

place yourself in villains position. you would probably bet your entire range on this board so I think we do very well vs his range now. the only problem is, like you already mentioned, that villain can barrel a lot of turns to put pressure on you. I think im calling and evaluating the turn.

Actually, in his shoes I'd check back my air quite a bit because this board should hit a std SB defending range pretty hard. I'm not necessarily saying he does but it'll still be very hard to get to SD and win.

if you think c/c turns your hand face up, you may be a bit scared

you should have plenty of hands that can call here that look nothing like JTss

agree that it hits a SB defending range really well, but imo at 100nl most regs dont adjust their cbetting/barreling frequencies enough to that.

I think you can c/c here. I wouldnt mind checkraising it either its a borderline call for me and its nice to have a checkraising range here other than sets and Ac. I think you can fold out all better Ts, and some weak flushdraws, also hands like AQ/AJ that have decent equity but cant stand any heat.
I think you can barrel on any club and any broadway.
and as you mentioned, it is pretty easy for villain to put pressure on you and without reads you cant c/c 3 streets.

donk

ya, also what fatking said. don't give people credit for smart cbetting. honestly most people are just trying to win pots simply and cbets are how to do it. even bad cbets IP are never THAT bad, since they open up turn + river opportunities.

I don't like leading very much w/o any info. How are you going to react to a raise?

I can get your points but I feel like even the bad regs will recognize that I can't have very many strong hands/draws in my range if I just c/c the flop. It's probably still a c/c as a std but what if the guy really likes to barrel a lot?

Question. If you do x call this flop is a mandatory lead ott if the club hits? I dont like these type of spots oop vs. unknown. Donking might get you the most value and information?

Donking might get you the most value and information?

I think you can't rep nothing because most likely all the pairs that contain a Qc or Ac would have 3b pre and the lower flushes would probably not go for obvious value but might be scared so I doubt he folds anything better
(so the reason to lead would be to realize our equity but will he let us do that as in fold his airhands? I mean since we rep pretty weak he could just raise or float with just about anything)

but on the other hand, can we really chc twice (or three times)
I'd say vs an aggro reg yes, because we almost have no clubs and he should know that but if we were to chc turn I think we'd have to chc river

I would donk vs some players, id c/c vs some and c/r vs some.

Thinking in defaults are valuable but imo the way to beat the stakes today is to play what most say is non default. Since most players know how to construct cbet ranges, how to react to c/r very well by now i have started experimenting with donking in these spots and you would be amazed about how profitable it is vs the players that dont adjust accordingly. Vs some its obv bad but you spot those guys very fast.


Edit: so if id had to take a default line id take the donkline and adjust after how villain plays.

Since most players know how to construct cbet ranges.

I don't see this happening even at midstakes and definitely not at small stakes. Vs guys that can't adjust vs donk bets there's a very high chance they fit in the not know how to construct proper cbetting range category.