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Villain is 28/12 3b 5.4% over a few hundred hands. On the loose passive side postflop, but not overly terrible. He's also 3betting vs. SB 15% so far, so he seems to show some aggression in certain spots. Fold to 4-bet 1/3. Obviously preflop, this is an easy 4b for value, but what do you think about sizing? And what should be our plan when we get this flop?

Merge Network $1.00/$2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 3 players - View hand 1767442
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BTN: $218.51
Hero (SB): $268.96
BB: $294.75

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is SB with K K
1 fold, Hero raises to $6.00, BB raises to $18.00, Hero raises to $54.00, BB calls $36

Flop: ($108.00) Q A 7 (2 players)
Hero ($214 behind)?

x/decide.. i dont hate betting $18 or something either

everything else looks good..

Thoughts on the rest of the hand?

Merge Network $1.00/$2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 3 players - View hand 1767442
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BTN: $218.51
Hero (SB): $268.96
BB: $294.75

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is SB with K K
1 fold, Hero raises to $6.00, BB raises to $18.00, Hero raises to $54.00, BB calls $36

Flop: ($108.00) Q A 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: ($108.00) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($108.00) A (2 players)
Hero bets $52.00, BB raises to $240.75 all in, Hero folds

Final Pot: $212.00
BB wins $211.00
(Rake: $1.00)

Given he is on the weak passive side as played i think bet/fold is fine, he can payoff with some Qx,Jx hand. Now just fold, seems like he has SD value when he checks back twice or is just completely giving up on this pot. So i woulddnt give a weak passive player credit for turning a sdv hand into a bluff.
And if he has air he is either totally giving up on this or would bluff turn or flop.

I think your river bet is too big. I don't see hands that we beat tbh..

I don't get what he raises for value on the river that he wouldn't have bet before.

hes likely a loosing player so doesnt have to be too logical what he does.

i think checking the flop is fine but since hes passive wouldnt mind to bet really small to get value from Jc Tc and Qx hands. also if he has a queen hes not gonna put money in if another club falls.

we can also give us the right odds to draw to our flush, if we check and he bets big were in a very ugly spot and loose our pot equity if we fold.

I think we can get some value on the flop with bet like 32.
All flush draws in his range could call, same as Qx hands, don't mind that we will get called by better hands because we have good equity vs this part of his range.

I think your river bet is too big. I don't see hands that we beat tbh..

Think you are wrong tbh.
We charge all his bluffcatchers (which his range looks like most likely), so river bet size is good to get called by all Qx.

Which Q's??? we block KQ and I don't see him 3betting QJ and even if he does he is not calling the river.... We target such a small part of his range and thats why i think this bet is too big if we plan to b/f.

So what you target then with smaller bet ? Induce ?

6 combos of KQ are enough given his line to get thin value from.

we can also give us the right odds to draw to our flush, if we check and he bets big were in a very ugly spot and loose our pot equity if we fold.

That's true. I guess my thought at the time was that I didn't want to get raised if I cbet, but I guess it's probably not that big of a concern vs. this player.

Would you have any info that would help you define his range? How wide would he call your 4bet IP? Have you seen him doing that before?