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Hi, does your BB vs BT flatting range change at all facing a 35% pfr, and facing a 55% pfr?

too generic of a question. Usually you can play more hands vs a wider preflop range.

Thnx for replying.

I would add only KJo and QJo vs 55%, but i wouldn't add any more suited connectors(98s and T8s would be the lowest still), and perhaps i should flat A9s too actually.

Thnx for replying.

I would add only KJo and QJo vs 55%, but i wouldn't add any more suited connectors(98s and T8s would be the lowest still), and perhaps i should flat A9s too actually.

I think this depends a lot on how they play postflop, vs. 3bets, etc.

also on their raise size, if someone minraises 55% I can't see folding any suited ace, suited gapper or offsuitBroadway, even most of the offsuit aces I might call.

I think this depends a lot on how they play postflop, vs. 3bets, etc.

Well, i was thinking about how weak their range needs to be before it doesn't matter if they are elite player or not because we dominate too much of it..

also on their raise size, if someone minraises 55% I can't see folding any suited ace, suited gapper or offsuitBroadway, even most of the offsuit aces I might call.

Thnx for the tips. I thought i included 3x sizing in my OP. But i was interested in 2.5x and 2x raises also
I agree, i would call down to A8o there, and call T9o FWIW.

Well, i was thinking about how weak their range needs to be before it doesn't matter if they are elite player or not because we dominate too much of it..

This will never happen. For example, KJo vs 100% range is only like 60%ish pot equity It's almost impossible to massively dominate another range equity wise with a reasonable range of our own. This is why people can play pretty loose OTB.

This will never happen. For example, KJo vs 100% range is only like 60%ish pot equity It's almost impossible to massively dominate another range equity wise with a reasonable range of our own. This is why people can play pretty loose OTB.

Well, we get 31% odds to call, and flop a pair 33% of the time, so i figured, aslong as we beat the same or more of their value betting range for 2 streets, we would be ok..

Well, we get 31% odds to call, and flop a pair 33% of the time, so i figured, aslong as we beat the same or more of their value betting range for 2 streets, we would be ok..

how did you come to this conclusion?

I don't know, but what makes AJo a call and KJo not a call?
I obviously got my core defending range(hands i always play) from what others have done in the past, but don't understand how they worked out that they where +EV calls.

Was just trying to work out ranges from SB/BB so that BT could not steal ATC.