FatKing85
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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($227)
Hero ($211)
UTG ($626)
UTG+1 ($262)
CO ($333)
BTN ($211)
Dealt to Hero K
7
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $4, SB calls $3, Hero calls $2
FLOP ($12) 4
K
9
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $8, SB folds, Hero calls $8
TURN ($28) 4
K
9
2
Hero checks, BTN bets $20, Hero calls $20
RIVER ($68) 4
K
9
2
Q
Hero checks, BTN bets $92, Hero folds
BTN wins $64.60
villain plays 34/29, raises 80% on the button. SB is a huge fish so I think preflop should be fine.
his barrel stats: 71/71/63
should I call that here? He knows I dont have too many flushes after the turncall and with a GSD im not c/c twice either, so my range is really capped here.
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urb
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his barrel stats: 71/71/63
should I call that here? He knows I dont have too many flushes after the turncall and with a GSD im not c/c twice either, so my range is really capped here.
If he is barrelling river 2/3 of the time and is capable of overbetting than why can't you call with flushdraw on the turn?
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Adriano85
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I would fold pre. Using SB as a reason to play crappy hands like this is a bad idea imo. Then we should play everything if a rec. player is in the hand. What do you want to see on the flop? We can't make big hands like straights, sets, flushes and we are in a MW pot so I'm not really happy with top pair no kicker.
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SOEK
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achabra12
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Calling pre is fine. BU is opening 80%, this is just a minraise, and there's a fish in the SB.
OTR I would be tempted to call here, since villain opens so wide on the button and barrels way too much. Judging by his stats, his bluffing frequency in this spot is probably way too high. It's more likely that a 200NL reg like this one will be unbalanced when he takes this line and will do it with a range of only the
flush and air. It would be pretty advanced if he did it for thin value with something like K9.
Idk man it's a pretty tough spot, can go either way. I struggle when facing overbets too and have recently decided to just stop making hero calls for now when facing them since I have a pretty bad track record against them.
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Shippopotamus
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I would fold pre, what are you hoping to flop? When I have to decide whether or not I should call a hand, I ask would I be fistpumping to hit my card. Calling hands like K7o gets yourself in a lot of crappy spots where you don't know what to do.
As played, I would just flip a coin. Your hand is pretty much face up as a weak TP, assuming your image is not super stationy and villain is competent (or blindly aggro) he should barrel off here since your range is capped.
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snarble5
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I think I would rather 3 bet pre than call and I'm pretty loose from the blinds vs minraises...
I think the only way you can call pre against someone so aggro is if you are willing to make some light call downs.
I think it's a call on this river basically since his turn barreling range is going to be so wide and there isn't a reason he should slow down on a scary river card. I also think it's playing into his strategy's hands to call/call/fold too often. You're range is also capped like you said.
http://propokertools.com/simulations/show?b=kd9s4d2sqd&g=he&h1=kh7s&h2=kk%2C+99%2C+44%2C+22%2C+kq%2C+jt%2C+a3%3Ad%2C+a5%3Ad%2C+65%3Ad%2C+dd%2C+ss&s=generic
This is giving him a pretty depolarized range (kq+, every flush). I gave him only A3, A5 and 65 with one diamond in his hand to represent the times he gives up and hands with spades. Obviously this is a somewhat rough calculation but we have enough to call given he can be barreling hands I didn't include like air or every busted draw.
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FatKing85
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slowlane123
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oop guessing games, good times..
pre is fine for me
donk the flop tho.. he should be playing pretty straight forward with the fish in the hand..
problem with playing this so passively is your hand is 100% faceup and his is 100% hidden.. if he's good enough he could potentially value bet AKo for value here (unlikely but possible).. so his range is completely uncapped..
hell he could be turning a better hand into a bluff (again, unlikely but possible)..
ppl paste these hands all the time where they're x/c x/c and completely lost on the river.. to fix this, try and be the guy putting people in these spots using overbets, not the guy hero calling rivers all the time (take a different line)
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urb
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ppl paste these hands all the time where they're x/c x/c and completely lost on the river.. to fix this, try and be the guy putting people in these spots using overbets, not the guy hero calling rivers all the time (take a different line)
Against very aggresive opponents x/c x/c x/c may sometimes be the most +EV line. The problem is sometimes board gets ugly or villain overbets and situation gets really difficult. Still we are on the river facing overbet with TPWK and we are considering a call!
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